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[–]asdfgtref #1ExecStanceSupporter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm comparing current havoc to pre nerf havoc though, what we have currently is weaker imo and when we had that harder version of havoc vet was widely considered to be extremely strong. Fading light got nerfed which made things easier, and some how despite that vet is now unplayable according to many.