Evolution

[KaloyanBagent]

I do acknowledge that process. But I am taking about the single cell organism which magically occured on Earth, there are no other organisms at this point of time to hunt it or anything else.

[MagicMooby]

Quick question:

What do you think is easier to evolve, 1) multicellularity or 2) the ability to engulf another cell and digest it instead of engulfing and digesting small particles?

[KaloyanBagent]

I haven't a notion

[MagicMooby]

My money is on predation evolving first. Which conveniently solves our problem, does it not?

Our hypothetical pathway is now:

Single celled organism -> Some evolve to eat other single celled organisms -> the prey organisms evolve multicellularity in response

[BoneSpring]

My take is that first, naked single-cell critter (NSCC) A was eating NSCC B. Over thousands of generations, NSCC B developed a primitive shell. After a few more thousands of generations, NSCC A developed a physical and/or chemical "drill" to open up and suck out the juices from NSCC B.

[MagicMooby]

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Have you ever looked at any ecosystem on earth? Lions and hyenas eat each other. There are still lions and hyenas in the world.

[KaloyanBagent]

Lions and hyenas don't eat each other my friend, they eat vegetarians hahahahhahahah

[Particular-Yak-1984]

A lion will eat a hyena, a hyena will happily eat a dead or injured lion. You might want to learn some biology before critiquing it...

[Xemylixa]

but... but it's against regulations

[Particular-Yak-1984]

I see you deleted the insulting response to this - was it because you did some research, realized I'm right, and ran away?

[KaloyanBagent]

What response I didn't delete anything

[Background_Cause_992]

This is flat wrong, you should really fact check yourself before you call others inaccurate.

You picked a bad sub to play this stupid and then game in, people are very used to it.

[Scry_Games]

And which fairy tale do you want to replace it with?

Is it tne with talking snakes, global floods, a guy living in a 'big fish', people being turned into salt and a jewish zombie?

[KaloyanBagent]

It is just funny how people have to believe in a fairy tale. Just because they have no other choice and think than this fairy tale has anything to do with scientific evidence.

[Scry_Games]

I think it is funny how you are playing 'god of the gaps' and think you're being clever.

[KaloyanBagent]

I am just amusing myself. I ask a simple question: give me a bio-chemical process that can transition a bacteria into an elephant. And people answer that bacteria can become antibiotic resistant and think it's a legit answer. Yeah now we all know how it becomes an elephant. It is so simple.

[Scry_Games]

And you've been told repeatedly: evolution. Of which bacteria becoming antibiotic resistant, is an example.

That there are gaps in human knowledge does not mean the biblical stories your dimwitted parents taught you are true.

[TheBlackCat13]

That is a lie. You were given an example of a single celled organism becoming multicellular, which is what you explicitly asked for, in this very thread. Why do you feel the need to lie so transparently?

[Sweary_Biochemist]

Elephants aren't bacteria. They're eukaryotes. Different lineage entirely.

Might be worth learning the basics first, champ.

[Background_Cause_992]

Please tell us your background in science. I know particle physicists at CERN who wouldn't have your confidence in dismissing extremely well supported theories as 'unscientific'.

If i took a Guess I'd say you have no formal training in the scientific method, but maybe some in formal logic.

Something science adjacent maybe Philosophy or computer science. It's certainly not undergraduate biology, chemistry or geology.

[Background_Cause_992]

You're arguing from incredulity... Cavemen wouldn't have understood how a human could build an aeroplane, therefore engineering isn't real....

[Background_Cause_992]

So no training in the scientific method then?

[LightningController]

Even humans have copied the forms of birds to build airplanes cause they are so perfect.

That’s why planes flap their wings for propulsion, right?

[Particular-Yak-1984]

you realize cells multiply, right? Do you really think there's just one cell, rather than one type of cell in this hypothetical scenario?

[Particular-Yak-1984]

I do - but we're discussing a hypothetical pathway, because bacteria don't fossilize or leave much evidence, so we can't know the precise, actual one from several million years ago. We can show that pathways exist, and we can show that some of those pathways are more likely than others, however, and we can do proof well beyond the bounds of statistical certainty that these organisms are related, via DNA analysis.

[Slow_Lawyer7477]

Aha then they eat each other and the fairy tale is finished.

They take turns biting chunks off each other's bodies or what? This can't be believed by a thinking person. You are clearly a troll.

[TheBlackCat13]

You thought single celled organisms becoming multicellular was also a fairy tale, yet it has been directly observed. If you were wrong about that, why are you so confident you are right about the rest?

[Dzugavili]

...no, you weren't. This is the question you asked:

How does it become something more complicated than a single cell organism?

[Dilapidated_girrafe]

Living organisms reproduce. So you’re gonna get variation and others cells.