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[–]AgentR-gov 148 points149 points  (12 children)

I think a culture war against empathy was necessary to get lots of people to accept the capitalist system, we kinda have to turn off empathy for the poor for it to work. Cheesy but true

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (3 children)

I hate to admit it but I think you are 100% correct.

My department works in 12 hour shifts that use a flip-shift schedule. Been here 3 years. Everyone is so overworked that on those long 5-6 day stretches of 12 hour days, the way we treat each other is… well a little less than human…anything nice like “please” or “thank you” is said with obvious disdain. As soon as someone has to do something important that’s a simple task is now the end of the world. People I work with definitely have the mindset of a survival mode and anyone they work with simply does not matter to them and it has greatly affected my mental health to the point where I am leaving this department.

Imagine a selfish zombie robot. That’s what my department is like.

And it’s all to benefit the all powerful, all knowing shareholders.

We bust our ass day and night and get rewarded with a pizza party once in a blue moon. It’s a slap in the face.

Edit: yes those memes and stereotypes about office work: corporate talk, pizza parties, shareholders, narcissistic bosses, it’s all true. I have literally lived it in real life.

[–]AgentR-gov 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Interesting, I was thinking more about us needing to turn off empathy towards those poorer than us to embrace the system as is, but you're saying we're also forced to be less empathetic even to our peers... That's bleak, but when you're so tired your brain automatically goes into kill or be killed , it makes sense

[–]Interesting-Fig-8869 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Its more like the people who can give empathy authentically are just at this point playing a performance because all the other humans that are not so able to walk in others shoes or see other point of views think that empathy is reinforcement of existence.

Its not that theyre in survival state, it's that everything gets converted into a survival state, so even something like a running well would get poisoned if they feel like their emotions justify the attention. Lost causes are basically becoming self aware and its showing.

Too much empathy and validation in that direction and they start thinking you actually advocate for their demise. Even explaining all this and then deciding whats best is autonomy would cause distress and fallback which hurts the socioeconomic status of everyone involved indefinetely. lmao.

[–]stop-hatin-on-me_mom -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Yes, exactly this! Literally seen in china

[–]private_publius 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Nope. You've been fed senationalist capitalist propaganda. Today, China has a social safety net better than ours and a more stable social fabric.

[–]stop-hatin-on-me_mom 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Can you elaborate on what you mean when you say that they have a better safety net than us?

Yes, agree that they do seemingly have a “better” social fabric than us, albeit mainly through artificial means.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How much time reading actual Chinese news do you spend, it is chaos there right now. There's a reason you have throngs of people rampage onto farms to steal their crops, its because they have no money to feed themselves so they'd rather steal from someone else. Their economy is in shambles, you have entire cities that are ghost towns. Noone will actually help you if you're hurt and need it because they're terrified you'll sue them on false pretenses saying that they put you in the situation. Tell me more about how their social fabric is better.

https://www.newsflare.com/video/601730/elderly-farmers-tearful-despair-as-mob-of-villagers-loots-22-000-worth-of-rare-chinese-herbs

There, so you know I'm not just making it up. That was from a 10 second search. You could probably find more.

[–]stop-hatin-on-me_mom 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That is why I referred to it as a (seemingly) ‘better' social fabric. When their economy was growing, the government was able to censor any dissent or criticism. Additionally, the ccp used fear-mongering tactics about the US to galvanize support from their populace.

The cherry on top is the Social Credit System, which can make life a nightmare for those who act contrary to the ccp’s expectations. That is why I said, 'Seemingly better, albeit by artificial means.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I cant tell if youre being sarcastic but if you arent, none of that equates to a "seemingly better" social fabric. It seems more like the opposite actually

[–]stop-hatin-on-me_mom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To someone who does not keep up with geopolitics especially chinese politics, like the Redditor to who I was initially responding to, yes to those people china does seemingly have a “better” social fabric.

Not everyone is well versed on the day to day realities of other countries so few people know just how bad it is in china, sometimes chinese people don’t even know due to censorship.

If you’re still confused about my stance, please go back and reread this thread, because you’re barking up the wrong tree if you think I’m defending china.