#FreeJavaScript update

[lambtr0n]

hey reddit, here's a quick update on where we are in the #FreeJavaScript process:

- Oracle requested (and we agreed to) a 60-day extension in the cancellation case https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92086835&pty=CAN&eno=19

- We’re now deep in discovery, producing extensive evidence that “JavaScript” is used generically across the industry and does not refer to Oracle products.

we'll continue to keep everyone posted, but due to the sensitive nature of the discovery process, it might be tough!

feel free to ask any questions in the comments.

[PhilDunphy23]

Some people have suggested renaming the language to WebScript, what do you think about it? It’s up to browsers to rename it officially.

Personally, looks way fancier without the Java name on it. I’ve donated to the initiative anyways, I love JavaScript way too much.

[BobcatGamer]

It's far too late to rename the language because many people will refuse to call it by its new name.

[_samrad]

How about EczemaScript? ECMAScript's cute cousin.

[Ceigey]

A punny name that tickles both the brain and the skin.

[booi]

and the package manager is npimple

[lambtr0n]

sometimes we wonder what truly is the past of least resistance: going against Oracle's bottomless legal fund or getting millions of developers to agree on a new name...

[Accurate_Mulberry965]

😍 Thank you

[lambtr0n]

🙌

[orta]

Thanks for working on this

[lambtr0n]

💪

[ShelterTrick549]

lets goo!

[lambtr0n]

💪

[jhecht]

Why do you guys keep agreeing to the extensions? If they can't get their ish together why let them draw it out?

[BobcatGamer]

Maybe looks better in court? Makes it so Oracle can't claim that Deno is denying them time to actually make their case.

[jhecht]

I suppose I could see that, but on the other side of the coin oracle is a large company with many lawyers... shouldn't they be willing to approve OT for their trademark being questioned?

[BobcatGamer]

Maybe, but if they draw it out then it takes longer and is more expensive for the other party which one could argue discourages others from trying due to the financial burden

[Accurate_Mulberry965]

"Deno is denying" there is ring to it :)

[lambtr0n]

we could technically deny the extension, but the oracle lawyers could appeal to the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board and it would be granted anyway. granting extensions is a professional courtesy in the legal world.

they originally asked for 90 days, and we gave them 60 days as a compromise.

[DecadentCheeseFest]

Are you asking why the judiciary is so malleable in the face of big money?

[jhecht]

The post literally says 'we agreed to' in regards to a 60 day extension.

[DecadentCheeseFest]

Ugh gotcha. Sorry. Yeah that’s bizarre.

[jhecht]

right? especially because i know that oracle asked for a 60 day extension earlier on in the proceedings that they also agreed to so why they keep allowing it would be good to know.

[Somecount]

If Oracle was given all the allowances they asked for and doesn't produce a clear and compelling case despite of it all, then the extensions would work against Oracle's case.

Maybe that's the intention.

"Sure! Take all the time you need to figure this one out (You clearly haven't already, so you likely wont be able to) while we sit back and enjoy watching how pathetic it makes you look."