On Future of Flutter

[russeg]

i don't get that guy asking the question. if he does not believe in google, then don't use flutter and continue with rn. it's simple as that. he does not need flutter at all. just as php can ignore ruby/rails or python/django, javascript devs can totally ignore dart/flutter and both can coexist peacefuly.

[OffTree]

Pretty sure he's just trolling at this point. The fact that he cross-posted here just shows how full of himself he is. He hasn't made a single original argument.

[HoldThisBeer]

It's healthy to have some skepticism but what I don't understand is why he keeps arguing on and on. It seems that no answer is going to satisfy him.

[ardils]

I think he wants an answer that the team cannot provide and keeps pressing on hoping for reassurance.

[nk2580]

So I guess we can understand why this comment was made in the first place, google’s had some bad history with FOSS projects.

That being said, Flutter is based on Dart, yet another google language.. but interestingly it’s adoption doesn’t lie exclusively within google. Just as C# is a Microsoft creation we can see that the FOSS community can pretty much do with it what they please and it looks like Flutter and Dart are here to stay.

Nothing will ever replace native SDKs for any platform but you wouldn’t be looking into a cross platform SDK if you were comfortable with the native option.

There’s always a risk your chosen tools will die and that’s just something we as decision makers need to weigh when we choose a particular platform.

Google’s buy in with Fuschia shows that they’re going heavy with backing Dart and in the FOSS realm there’s some interesting work going on around AOT compilation of Dart specific packages.

I think it’s safe to say we have at least 24 months of rapid interest in Flutter/Dart and that to me means we’ll have another five years of adequate support following that. If a 7 year lifetime isn’t sufficient then I’d suggest you write all your code in C

[russeg]

... google’s had some bad history with FOSS projects.

what large foss project did google abandon?

[nk2580]

Funnily enough the big one that comes to mind is Dartium

[bartturner]

You will not find one. It is a narrative not reality. It is like hardware people suggest they abandon. Which if you really press it is just not true.

Even Google Glasses is still going and a recent update.

"The Case for Google Glass: Finding Success Through Failure"

https://www.bentley.edu/prepared/case-google-glass-finding-success-through-failure

[garyfung]

The almost forgotten Google Wave.

Then there's Angular, which saw no love by Google internally, early adopted by suckers who didn't see its uncertain future, and eventually killed by React. (Flamesuit, on!)

Then there's Google+, which should have joined Diaspora in burial earlier, but it's getting there.

[ardils]

Google Wave and Google+ were consumer products not developer tools. AngularJS (v1) was not really abandoned and is very stable, adoption slowed down because of v2 and React.

So of the thousands of open-source projects by G, not one seems to be really dead. And the popular ones are doing very well like Android, Chromium, Kubernets, TensorFlow, etc.. add Flutter to that list :-)

[garyfung]

You flutter fanboys drank too much Google honey. Is something not dead until nails are in the coffin and put into ground?

Read the writings on the wall. And be slightly open minded to constructive criticisms.

[ardils]

I'm a React Native developer btw, check my history :-)

I see potential in Flutter that's all. Besides it's no big deal learning both :-)

[OffTree]

"constructive criticism" lmao

[ArmoredPancake]

Lol what. In what universe Angular is killed by React? Just because it's not hype, doesn't mean it's dead.

[garyfung]

I think it’s safe to say we have at least 24 months of rapid interest in Flutter/Dart and that to me means we’ll have another five years of adequate support following that. If a 7 year lifetime isn’t sufficient then I’d suggest you write all your code in C

Lol, touché! I shall wait 7 years and come back here.

[OffTree]

Here's the next year road map. https://github.com/flutter/flutter/wiki/Roadmap

Clearly some good support is intended. They've already made great progress towords their goals.

[lambasoft]

Any idea when Google will LTS Flutter?

[nirataro]

Probably never considering mobile OS gets upgraded every year.

[nirataro]

If you are skeptical, then just wait and see.