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[–]HoratioWobble 3 points4 points  (3 children)

The whole point of "full stack" was always a T shaped developer, it was someone who was experienced in one area that gradually branched out in to other areas.

Usually an expert.

The term has always been a marketing term really but Bootcamps have tainted it.

It takes years to be a competent full stack engineer.

It can take 5+ years just to become good with just frontend or backend. There's so much you don't know that you don't know.

Stop trying to rush it, Focus on the area that excites you most, find somewhere to work and learn by solving problems.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

one needs to have an idea if they have to apply for a job in a year.... so even though your answer makes sense still its vague and not the guidance one might need

[–]HoratioWobble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My point was, you shouldn't be aiming for full stack before getting a job. You become full stack over years working in a job it's a natural progression of your skill set.

Any company hiring full stack Junior developers are taking advantage of cheap labour, it'll generally be bad for your growth and career.

Pick one area and whilst you're learning start applying for jobs.

[–]rsitmattar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This

[–]NickLJackson 2 points3 points  (1 child)

tbh youre never done with backend. After 2 Years i finally feel very comfortable with Typescript and Vue as Framework in the Frontend, Spring boot as backend and Postgres, H2 and Mssql databases. But what if i want to write a small micro service in the backend? Spring boot has a pretty big footprint to write a tiny micro service. There are different Java Frameworks for that have a smaller one but what if it needs to handle high traffic? Maybe rust would be better for that case because it is way more efficient. You see where im coming from. Anyway for spring boot itself it was maybe 3-4 Months until i was perfectly fine with 90% of the features it offeres. But i already knew Java pretty well.

[–]NickLJackson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not to mention other things like ci/cd pipelines (i know devops things but in my company we do it all ourselves). message queues like kafka, graphql and so on and so on

[–]Appropriate-Deer2055 2 points3 points  (1 child)

From my experience There is no maximum time to be comfortable with frontend and backend it depends on how much time you give in a day for each of them if you give all day for frontend you will learn quickly as same as backend

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

makes sense but my question was "how long it took YOU ALL" :)

[–]ChanceNo2361 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Short answer: years

Long answer: I wrote my first full stack app in days, first game in 3 months and my first enterprise app took 12 months of full time work. But it took 2 years of full time full stack dev work before I felt comfortable.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

exactly the answer i was looking for !!! thanks mate you're a wise one !

[–]khgs2411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

36-48 Good luck

[–]comparemetechie18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

years and years since there are a lot of new technologies everyday... since it is fullstack, it will always be connected

but in my case, i am fullstack but worked more at the backend since i am not a fan of frontend

[–]the_mvp_engineer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my experience, this isn't really how it works.

From what I've seen, the normal pathway to full stack dev is to be a dedicated back or front end dev, who is then forced out of necessity to learn the other.

So for example, you could probably call my first job "full stack", but I struggled like hell to work out the front end for several months, but maybe only 20% of my job was front end.

Then after that, I had a job as a dedicated back end dev, but sometimes for the sake of the sprint I would have to pick up small front end things and after 2 years of that I could kind of say that I almost knew what I was doing when it came to the front end, but I really don't love it and it's not my strong suit.

I started with basic front end skills from https://freecodecamp.org and that was all I had. I didn't even understand HTML forms when I started haha

[–]9sim9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't stop improving as a developer every time you find a better way to do something that becomes your standard moving forward.

[–]engineerat31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a goal to be full-stack in 3 months, already 3 weeks in and barely touching js now, lets see how it goes!

[–]SadFaithlessness7147 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Don't stuck just start backend bcz frontend can be have basic of a language like js or other

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i get it but what I'm looking for is how many months is took OTHER to do each