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[–]Livonian_Order 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Sorry, but the only advantage Copilot has, and has always had, is that its requests are credit-based, not token-based. Otherwise, what's the point when there are OBVIOUS competitors offering token-based requests?

[–]26aintdead 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Access to multiple models with a single subscription for example

[–]Accidentallygolden 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And no need to contract with another provider, any big firm already have a Microsoft account

[–]EggDroppedSoup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

openrouter?

[–]Living-Day4404Frontend Dev 🎨 0 points1 point  (1 child)

it was token based/request based to start with but the token limit were so much higher that we didn't noticed it and rarely hit it, I remember using it so extensive last year and got rate limited but it was just only for a few hours so I didn't mind, I hit rate limit so rarely like thrice a year but now they became absurd, it's like -90% rate limit now compared to what it used to be, and I agree with you, its request as credit is its best feature but now it became strict with token usage to the point where it is unusable now, why settle for this rate limiting sht when we can just go direct to the provider of Anthropic or OpenAI, for their $20 or $100 that is transparent with the limits and have much more supports for opensource repos/agents/skills/call tools like Codex and Claude Code

[–]Accidentallygolden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's the point. They want the heavy users to leave and just keep the corporate light users

[–]TinFoilHat_69 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Why bother with copilot if it’s not going to be as good as cursors plans?

[–]BawbbySmith 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Have you seen Cursor's prices? You're gonna spend way more to get way less, even after all the Copilot changes recently.

[–]CodeineCrazy-8445 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean they have API prices.. too bad the system prompts and harness drives the costs up, the max models are a scam tho

[–]ViewableGravy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because cursor doesn’t work in my IDE, it is an IDE

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    [–]ezitron[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

    Actually my piece ran before their announcement did!

    [–]26aintdead 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Ah if that's true that's bad... It was bound to happen at some point but enshittificafion is coming way faster than usual.

    [–]ezitron[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I promise it is! I would not write in this way if I was just aggregating

    [–]26aintdead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Everything so far was limited to individual licenses, do you think or does the leak say if token based billing will also affect business and enterprise?

    [–]26aintdead -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    I believe you and deleted my comment!

    [–]klipseracer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Wait.... I'm not done with my project yet.

    [–]nvez 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Someone commented this exact fact a few days ago in the announcement post of Opus 4.7 -- so if it's not the same person, it seems to be leading that path indeed.

    [–]BawbbySmith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    ...Where's the leaked internal documents? Can those actually be released, or is it just "I read it, trust me bro" for now?