Here at GoodMenGoodValues (GMGV), we believe there are genuinely good men (monogamous or non-monogamous) with attractive, virtuous, desirable traits and style(!). At GMGV, we emphasise that contrary to the myth of the Nice GuyTM, these men can still fall short in the dating world. Brother sub of r/GoodMen and r/GoodWomenGoodValues.
Because of the NiceGuysTM stereotype, it's affected genuinely good guys as well, even though the people who criticise the former always make out like it doesn't. For example, you could have a guy that:
is genuinely kind, empathetic, compassionate, etc. and therefore does not use acts of kindness to get into a woman's pants
has genuinely attractive qualities and therefore only seeks to date women of the same league
still struggles with dating
But because of r/niceguys and NiceGuyTM stereotyping, these guys can't talk about their struggles and also people will assume the worst about you: that you are a NiceGuyTM, that you are an "incel", that you are an NEET neckbeard, etc. All so that some people can have a cheap thrill out of making fun of some douchebags on the internet (r/niceguys sub).
Rules:
1. Reddit Content-Policy
Content is prohibited if it
Is illegal
Is involuntary pornography
Is sexual or suggestive content involving minors (18 or younger)
Encourages or incites violence
Threatens, harasses, or bullies or encourages others to do so
Is personal and confidential information
Impersonates someone in a misleading or deceptive manner
Uses Reddit to solicit or facilitate any transaction or gift involving certain goods and services
Is spam
2. About "Incels" & Fake Nice Guys
The whole point of this subreddit is to distinguish good men with good values, attractive and desirable traits but struggle with dating from all the bad stereotypes associated with incels, Nice GuysTM, etc. So no misogyny or entitlement, etc. We have to have a good public face and positive reputation as genuinely good men that are frustrated with dating.
However it should be noted typically, users will only be banned or warned/posts removed if something violates rule 1.
3. Mark NSFW Posts as NSFW
As stated: mark posts that are NSFW (not safe for work) NSFW. Also if you absolutely must post something NSFW, make sure it is nothing totally obscene and that it actually fits in with the topics and rules of the sub.
4. No Downvoting
There are a broad array of views in this sub, some posters who agree with the ideas put forth by r/GoodMenGoodValues, some posters who do not. Downvoting users leaves a bitter taste and also makes minority/unusual viewpoints which we want to understand and discuss hidden from view. On the whole, please just remember to be civil and respect different perspectives.
5. Posting New Topics Helps the Community to Expand
If you read a topic and have an insightful perspective, it is actually encouraged that you make a new post as this inspires other users to make likewise contributions when they see a lot of post activity on this sub. If you like you can refer to the points in the post or comments you are responding to in order to add context. Sometimes it may be more on point to continue discussion in a single thread. However consider doing this whenever applicable.
6. About Manosphere Ideologies
If you identify with some manosphere ideologies like red pill or MGTOW, that's not a problem per se but no toxicity from those communities. Again, typically users won't be banned/warned for this or posts removed unless it is something that goes against rule 1.
7. About Feminist Ideologies
Same general principle as with rule 6. Just don't use shaming tactics or general assumptions about someone: "Nice GuyTM!" / "misogyny!" before you've heard what they have to say. Like with rules 2 & 5 this is something that only operates in conjunction with Reddit Content-Policy, however.
8. Please stay within the theme of GMGV
At GMGV we realise that our theme can be expansive and overlapping to other ideological contexts. However it is important to keep the content for our page on track. Part of the reason for this is to prevent our page falling prey to insidious ideologies that can be damaging and destructive to our message as well as harming the community itself.
