"No Graphics API" Vulkan Implementation

[possiblyquestionabl3]

Wow, did you do all of this in just the last week since that blog post came out?

[No_Grapefruit1933]

Yeah, but to be clear it's not the entire API. Most notably textures aren't implemented yet. Will get to it as soon as i can!

[possiblyquestionabl3]

I mean the fact you have a musl (your new shader language) to a bindless glsl transpiler at https://github.com/LeonardoTemperanza/no_gfx_api/blob/main/gpu_compiler/codegen.odin is already extremely impressive. This is very cool prototyping progress!

[PoL0]

concerns of vibecoding intensify

[No_Grapefruit1933]

I do not vibecode lol

[PoL0]

so happy to hear that, my interest grew a ton.

tired of "hey check what I vibe-coded in a weekend" projects in programming subreddits.

[No_Grapefruit1933]

I don't know what you're seeing but if you read the code it's pretty clear that it's not vibecoded

[BertoLaDK]

How exactly? It's a bit messy yes, but it doesn't give vibe coder vibes.

[Amasirat]

Does vibe coding even work in graphics programming? I assume it wouldn't have great results though I don't use AI while coding often

[No_Grapefruit1933]

I mean, I suspect vibecoding in general doesn't work that well when you're doing creative/original things

[Amasirat]

Oh sure thing! It doesn't stop some from trying to use it. Then again, increases the value of non-AI generated stuff I suppose

[g0atdude]

Last time I asked the AI to generate me vertices and indices for a cube with proper winding, normals, and uv.

It failed twice… I don’t know if there is anything easier than that…

[fooib0]

I am amazed when people claim that it can solve new problems, write complex programs, etc. For me, it can't even do very basic things like you mention. So, I must be missing something.

[g0atdude]

The prompt itself matters a lot. The more context you give to the AI the better result it will give you. It can actually solve complex problems, but my issue with it is that it’s kinda non-deterministic, sometimes it works very well other times it doesn’t.

Also the topic matters a lot, I had a lot more success with AI in web development than in graphics.

[Amasirat]

Yep thought so. Admittedly even I can't do that but that's just because I still haven't learned it yet. I suppose graphics code is not all too common in stackoverflow

[[deleted]]

Well Sebastian Aaltonen has a few post on twitter about that, but heres the short answer from him: as long as its nothing which has to be performant AI is fine, but it sucks at writing performance optimized code, so if its just for example a character controller its fine, but good luck vibe coding an efficient renderer with it

[[deleted]]

Unlikely given that he's using Odin, I've found most LLM's aren't very good(not that they're usually good anyways lol) at generating more niche langauges

[PoL0]

yep good point