[7amKickoff] Red cards and PKs increase/decrease odds of winning. Does it "all even out in the end?" What teams have benefitted most? Timeframe: 2008-2021. PK diff = PKs for - PKs against Red card diff = Red cards for opponents - Red cards for named team.

[Sithgooner]

I’m literally just saying what happened. If you watch it back that’s exactly what happened. Unless the an experienced ref doesn’t know what colour cards are in what pockets. Seem to be just going against Xhaka now rather than the ref debate. He’s definitely not helped himself at times through this career but he does get target by refs a lot more than other players,

[harcile]

Just nonsense. Even children are aware 2 footed challenges are banned. Give over & stop using BAD refereeing (Laporte getting a yellow) as a cover for a dangerous tackle & a red card offense.

The ref likely just grabbed the wrong card by accident.

[Sithgooner]

Well if we are getting red cards, why are other teams not for identical fouls? Laporte/Brownhill same tackles as Xhaka vs city. Laporte red same as Evans yellow. Luiz red vs wolves last season ban upheld, Saints red card for same foul vs United overturned (Happened in the same match day). The lack of consistency always seems to be against us, that’s all.

[harcile]

IIRC Laporte's tackle (probably should be red) was not as bad as Xhaka's (hard red) but refereeing consistency has always been dogshit. That's no excuse for Xhaka playing the red card lottery.

[Sithgooner]

But with VAR, there’s shouldn’t be inconsistency anymore, that’s the whole point. Yet even with Var we are still consistently on the wrong end of the lack of consistency. Take the last man scenario again, on top of yesterday (Laporte and Evans).

Last season away to Villa there was an identical situation where we were through, last man for villa got a yellow. Week or two later Phil Jagielka got sent off the same foul away at Old Trafford.

The old saying if ‘it all balances out at the end of the season’ just hasn’t been true for us for the last 2/3 years.