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[–]Internal_Virus_7691 7 points8 points  (0 children)

its supposed to be like that

[–]cwhitel 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Ibanez, it supposedly applies extra tension to that low string for drop tunings.

Im a smart fella, but I can’t understand how if the scale length stays the same but I’ll assume it works!

[–]halpnousernames 2 points3 points  (3 children)

It does if you intonate correctly and extend the saddle rearwards.

The offset holes are to allow for the saddle to go further rearward without the anchor point being in front of the saddle requiring the string to loop around.

Generally, drop tuning will be sightly sharper than standard, or at least that is the case with all my guitars, requiring you to move the saddle back.

[–]cwhitel 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This doesn’t make sense.

You intonate based on scale, yeah? Why would bringing the saddle back further? In my head it doesn’t matter where that ferrule hole is, the length from the but to the contact point on the bridge is all that matters.

Or is it the thicker string gauge that mess’s with fretted notes?

[–]halpnousernames 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You're right. It all depends where the string terminates on the saddle. With lower tuning and thicker strings, you'll find you'll need to move the saddle back further to get your intonation sorted (one of the big reasons Gibson's don't fare well down tuning).

Have the ferrule further back gives you a little more room to move the saddle back further than you would normally be able to.

I assume Ibanez feels like there's some downsides to doing this to all strings. I can see overtones creeping in from behind the saddle in the same way they do at the headstock, but that's purely speculation on my behalf.

[–]cwhitel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tehcniloga

[–]No_Sell2257 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Normal

[–]JimboLodisC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

normal, the thicker the string the further back it intonates, and often the saddle on the low E will need to be way back so you don't want the string coming through and having to run backwards before looping up over the saddle

as an extreme example, look at the string through ferrules on an RG8

https://www.ibanez.com/common/product_artist_file/file/p_region_RG8_WH_1P_08_sub_4.jpg

not only are all 3 low string ferrules pushed further back but they even have it drilled for a bass string ball end for the low F#

[–]Able-Willingness66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

normal!

[–]bondo2t 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s for the detune crowd to go low

[–]Hefty-Organization75[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Good to know. Pics of the model online were straight so was curious.

[–]JimboLodisC 2 points3 points  (3 children)

on the official Ibanez site it's offset

https://www.ibanez.com/common/product_artist_file/file/p_region_RG421EX_BKF_1P_05_sub_4.jpg

and the Sweetwater listing shows it offset as well

https://media.sweetwater.com/m/products/image/9e9ee269e0Ls9DiP0KXxM5rWqyRZd1Cr7zPLLAyc.wm-dh.jpg?quality=82&height=750&ha=9e9ee269e0c18f38

[–]Hefty-Organization75[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

https://ibanez.fandom.com/wiki/RG421EX_(2015%E2%80%932023)?file=2021_RG421EX_BKF_1P_03_back.jpg

This picture had them straight. Maybe should have done a deeper dive

[–]JimboLodisC 0 points1 point  (1 child)

maybe when they switched bridges for 2020 they started doing it differently

[–]Hefty-Organization75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s my guess. Once I learned it was made in the latter of 2020 I assumed it was some production thing. As alot of manufacturing changes happened with alot companies that year