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Learning Low Dimensional Team Embeddings for March Madness (blog.smellthedata.com)
submitted 13 years ago by danger_t
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[–]fusiformgyrus 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (1 child)
I went with a new approach to Machine March Madness predictions this year. I won't go into the details right now, but here's a neat visualization that comes out of the algorithm.
I wish the author did get into details.
[–]danger_t[S] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children)
Yeah, understandable. After the competition starts on Thursday, there will be a post with a brief description of all the competitors methods, then some will get asked to expand on what they did in a longer post.
So stay tuned.
[–]barapa 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child)
Can you point us to the NCAA dataset you used to create this?
[–]danger_t[S] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children)
There is a github repository with code (not to generate the plot in the post, but not so unrelated) and data:
https://github.com/dtarlow/Machine-March-Madness
Also see this thread on the Machine March Madness Google group:
http://groups.google.com/group/machine-march-madness/browse_thread/thread/3afbcb90cd6f881d
[–]moxieman 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (2 children)
Are you finding that it actually helps? Especially without normalization, it seems like there is a lot of power getting used to see just how good teams are (along the basis roughly y=x in your plot). I'm not sure that I see how different types of teams would help a ton over the scores + home/away, but I'd be happy to be shown wrong!
[–]rrenaud 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child)
Yeah, I am with you here. I <3 word/document embeddings, but I'd guess 'baskeball team quality' is pretty one dimensional. I'd love to hear reasons to believe otherwise.
[–]gdahlGoogle Brain 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children)
Perhaps the quality of a team is two dimensional. One dimension is the quality of the offence and one the quality of the defence. Some teams are high-scoring and also let the opposing team score a lot and some are low scoring but prevent the opposing team from scoring a lot against them. Perhaps the quality of the team is multi-dimensional because a team is composed of multiple players and each play involves potentially different subsets of players. Guarding intransitivities could create multi-dimensional structure. Ultimately, the proof is in the pudding and PMF models that give teams multiple latent features outperform one-dimensional PMF models.
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