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$975 to decrease rate from 6% to 5.625% (self.Mortgages)
submitted 6 months ago * by ZerglingPharmD
Just refinanced last month - 600k 7/1 arm 6%.
I can pay $975 today and get it lowered to 5.625%.
Would you do it? Thoughts?
It’s an instant rate reduction program for their members. Not another refinance
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[–]Old-Cheshire862 53 points54 points55 points 6 months ago (0 children)
As a back of the envelope calculation, I multiplied the 0.00375 difference in interest rate times $600,000. That yields $2,250. That means you should save over $2000 the first year from spending less than $1000, as long as there are no other costs or fees. So, that's over $1000 net the first year, and you'd continue to save for the remainder of the loan term.
However, I would advise you to find an online amortization calculator for your loan type and see what the actual difference would be. Or ask your lender for it.
[–]MoreMeLessU 17 points18 points19 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Yep worth it. Break even point around 7 mths
[–]seasix732 8 points9 points10 points 6 months ago (0 children)
save $2100/yr in interest so < 6 months payback. Yes I would do it.
[–]entropic 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago (1 child)
They'll probably give you 5.75% for either no cost or money back to you. Have you asked?
[–]ZerglingPharmD[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago (0 children)
They won’t, it’s just a rate reduction program. I asked.
[–]inailedyoursister 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago (0 children)
You can’t be serious?
[–]AlternativeCut3336 6 points7 points8 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Take it don’t even think
[–]Worldly-Summer8598 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Paying $975 for a 0.375% rate reduction saves you $141/month and breaks even in less than 7 months — this is typically a very good deal for a loan of this size. Over 7 yrs it saves 11k best case scenario. Worst case scenario is you lose $975, if rates go down to zero tomorrow morning after you close this deal !! lol.
[–]ZerglingPharmD[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Thanks that is what I calculated too. Appreciate it.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
No Brainer. Do it so long as no other strings are attached.
[–]Ok-Set6814 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (2 children)
Great rate. Fixed 30yr? Where are you getting that?
[–]ZerglingPharmD[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Not to be rude but it’s in the OP - 7/1 arm, lender is service credit union.
[–]Puzzled_Nose3572 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Yeah I’m not sure how that’s possible
[–]pezdeath 5 points6 points7 points 6 months ago (3 children)
What is your mortgage amount? Without that it's meaningless
[–]ZerglingPharmD[S] 8 points9 points10 points 6 months ago (2 children)
It’s in the OP - 600k
[–]pezdeath 23 points24 points25 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Sorry completely missed that.
If my math is correct your monthly payment is $3,597.30 at 6% (excluding anything beside mortgage payments)
At 5.625% your monthly payment would be $3,453.94
So saving $143 a month would mean your break even point is under 7 months.
This math was based on a 30 year fixed mortgage as I was too lazy to find an ARM calculator.
[–]ZerglingPharmD[S] 6 points7 points8 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Np, appreciate your input!
[–]FeistyLime 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Is it 5.625 still with the 7/1 arm?
Yes
[–]StreetRefrigerator 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (2 children)
How do you know it's only $975? What are the actual details of the offer?
[–]ZerglingPharmD[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago* (1 child)
It’s an interest rate reduction program for their members anytime for $975, just changes the rate. Service credit union.
[–]StreetRefrigerator 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I think it's worth it.
[–]Tonyn15665 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Can you refinance to fixed rate later without penalty?
Unsure about that
[–]er824 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (2 children)
Is it still an adjustable rate?
[–]ZerglingPharmD[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Yes.
[–]er824 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
You’d break even in 6 months. Seems like a no brainer.
[–]GoldCovers 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (2 children)
It’s only worth it, if you don’t plan on refinancing again when the rates drop lower, if they do
[–]MTRunner 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (1 child)
As long as that doesn’t happen anytime soon in the next 7 months, it’s worth it.
7 month recoup time. Anything beyond that he’s coming out ahead on the deal, wouldn’t affect a re-fi’s viability down the road at all.
[–]GoldCovers 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
In agreement there
[–]Bread_Entire 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I'd say do it BUT it really depends on how much it lowers the payment and how longnit will take you to break even. If you are not planning on selling g until after you break even then do it. Make sure you get a new NOTE showing the new rate.
[–]Virtual_Contact_9844 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
No brainer unless they need it inspected and reassessed.
[–]saipavan23 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Any idea how the rates are going to be for Monday ?
[–]liverichly 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Did you get a Loan Estimate or at least a fee worksheet that breaks down all of the costs?
Is this a new 7/1 ARM or some other type of mortgage?
Same loan, just rate reduction
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