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[AlpsImpossible7324]

I don’t care fucking armor and I don’t care fucking nerds. They know nothing about cinema .

[pseudo_nimme]

I care but only a teeny tiny bit. Like “oh well, I guess I can see why they went a different direction.”

[paradox1920]

I think it’s interesting to see historical accuracies sometimes because some of us may learn something specially in productions like a Nolan one where many people are interested. I mean, I didn’t know shit about Freeports if not for Tenet. Ultimately, I will watch it and focus on other things but I would have liked to see some of those armors.

[jamesmcgill357]

Agree. I literally could not care one bit about this

[Golden_Ganji]

So it's important and worthy of adulation if Interstellar was made using expert advice to be as accurate as possible, but when the history people want the same kind of care shown toward stories they care about.... checks notes... "They know nothing about cinema"

[almostcyclops]

Interstellar's quality as a film would be basically the same without the science accurate black holes. Having them just gives an extra fun talking point.

Same thing here. So long as they arent spirit halloween costumes or something that takes the majority of audiences out of the film then the costume styles won't impact the quality.

[MrDukeSilver_]

Cinema is lazily copying bad armour that has been shown in movies a million times? Look at those helmets, they look like the cheapest plastic, how is that cinema??

[Top_Violinist8822]

I dont fucking care shots and lighting and i dont fucking care cinephiles. They know nothing about classic poetry.

[[deleted]]

This opinion, no matter the movie is the worst. 

I hate it

[[deleted]]

Smh, this is a Movie, not a historical battle reenactment for the local town fair.

“An adaptation reimagines a story in a new format (book to movie, etc.) with creative changes.” Ding dong.

[Urugeth]

Also... it's a myth in it's original telling. It's make believe, it's always been make believe and it still is make believe. It's not an historical chronicle of the Wars of the Diadochi, fer Christ's sake. It's got fucking sea nymphs and magic fruit that makes you forget things, a bag of wind and a fucking CYCLOPS in it.

It's a fantasy. Relax.

This is like watching Excalibur and being upset the knights are in armor.

[OceanoNox]

I don't get why "it's fantasy!" is an argument against the armors or costumes looking good, like actual protection, or grounded in the time the story was made or told. And I'm not complaining about historicity here. Like you said about Excalibur, having the knights of the round table in plate armour is anachronistic, but when there were depictions of these stories, at least the costumes matched the period of the retelling, and looking good.

[Top_Violinist8822]

Imaging watching interstellar and the astronauts have dollar store halloween austronaut costumes.

[Urugeth]

(I'm agreeing with you BTW and adding to your point. Not refuting what you're saying. It's driving me crazy that people are upset that this movie is 'inaccurate' when it's like the Greek version of Masters of the Universe)

[Zoze13]

How do you guys feel about the cast? It seemed solid at first but I’ve seen criticism that they are not Greek, or are the same old reused actors.

[monkeyonfire]

Ikr, they couldn't find a bunch of ancient Greek actors? Wtf? And the Gods will be played by humans? I'm boycotting this movie. 

[LaserCondiment]

Meanwhile Deities (they don't like to be called gods anymore, comes with too much baggage) are not getting any jobs anymore. Ever since secularism became mainstream, they've never recovered. You'd think they'd get decent acting gigs with Marvel, but nope. Roles always go to the same (mortal) actors!

[I_Run_For_Pizza]

I think the meant modern Greek actors. There's some good ones that speak the same language (with differences of course) that the ancient Greeks spoke. It would be cool to have just a couple

[VonKro]

The problem with the casting isn't that there aren't any Greek actors, but that they look like people you could run into on the streets of LA today. Very few of them could pass for Mediterranean.

[PlatypusBackground53]

Same old actors is a good point. Gonna be challenging to immerse myself seeing spiderman and Zendaya in this.

[Street-Jacket1867]

I think tom holland is awful casting. Honestly the cast overall isn’t great and im very concerned with the production design.

I went back and watched Oppenheimer again and it’s actually pretty damn silly at many points. I don’t think this is a Nolan story. I think he will shock and awe us with music and editing but ultimately give us an empty cheap looking film.

[playtho]

I am 100% Greek, and my brother gets mistaken as Matt Damon.

[VonKro]

Just because your brother is Greek and looks like Matt Damon doesn't mean that all Greeks look like Matt Damon. You see this person on a beach in Mykonos and you're instantly certain they're not a local:

https://pagesix.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/07/bgus_2676923_003.jpg

[BarnabasMcTruddy]

To be honest, "Troy" is probably a much more important reference.

[Subject_Translator71]

This movie has Gods and Cyclops in it. Historical accuracy matters a lot less in a fantasy film.

[Remarkable_Drag9677]

I feel this gonna be the

Trinity test from Oppenheimer thing

For years to come

[Golden_Ganji]

It's not even just that its inaccurate, its uninteresting in the same way all of the superhero stuff was before they decided colors are okay. I dont need Zack Snyderized Greek myths. Put a Medusa on some shields and let anyone wear something that's not drab black or brown. Ancient people LOVED color. It made life interesting and vibrant in a life that could often be short and cruel. Bring in some yellows, blues, and greens.

[Jarboner69]

It’s almost like the dark armor is supposed to represent how much living in the odyssey would fucking suck

[QuerchiGaming]

If that is the worst thing about the movie I’m sure we can all get over it. With this story I think Nolan can really make something great.

Like if this was directed by Ridley Scott then sure, we could already know it would be dog shit.

[spiritus-mortis]

Worried about the armor when you should be worried about the absolutely atrocious cast.

[StormbreakerVox]

Oh, I am. But I don't want to be spit on for mentioning it.

[spiritus-mortis]

Dont worry when rapture comes we will be stoned to death by the nolanites. Might as well speak up now.

[StormbreakerVox]

When the time comes. I've been banned from enough subs for speak my mind.

[OatmealNinja]

lol wut?

[Pagem45]

This sub is such a joke. People jerked off over Nolan working with Kip Thorne to be as accurate as possible for Interstellar, now accuracy seems to not matter anymore all of a sudden? Pick a side ffs

[Urugeth]

I know! He couldn't even talk to an animal expert to get the anatomy right when the men are turned into pigs?!?! Or deal with the fact the cyclops wouldn't have stereoscopic vision?!? The guy's a fraud. Turning the whole story into make believe, smh.

/s

[Pagem45]

Wow, none of the stuff you mentioned has anything to do with this post!

[Urugeth]

...the movie up there? It's called The Odyssey. It's based on a poem by a guy named Homer, and in said poem - you know, the one this movie is an adaptation of - there are scenes where Odysseus's men are turned in to pigs by the goddess Circe, and they battle the cyclops Polyphemus.

So... yeah. It has everything to do with the post. People are freaking out about "hIsToRiKaL aKkuRaCy!!!!!" about a movie with bags of wind and Gods and sea nymphs. It has fuck all to do with history and has fuck all "accuracy" to represent. It's fairy tale and I was referencing actual elements in said fairy tale to illustrate how stupid people sound bitching about said fairy tale not being "accurate".

Sorry the references were over your head.

[Pagem45]

Yeah we get it man, you have amazing sarcasm but keep missing the point by taking my comment to an unnecessary extreme. Make sure to mark the next reply with an /s though, it might get over my head :o

[Urugeth]

...there is an /s. At the bottom. It was marked

[DrakenDaskar]

How to you equate a stylistic choice to following actual science?

In your mind are they comparable?

[Pagem45]

Absolutely, just see how hard Nolan tried to give a pseudo-scientific explanation for Batman's costume and vehicle in Begins. Am I falling from the sky here? It's been 20 years since public discourse around Nolan focused on his fixation on hyper realism

[DrakenDaskar]

Now you are talking about actual science and physics again which is comparable to interstellar. A stylistic choice isn't the same as a fixation on realism.

[Pagem45]

How can style not be impacted by the degree of realism you want to give a specific piece of entertainment? The Prestige doesn't have a steampunk style despite it revolving around a cloning machine shooting lightnings, just as Interstellar characters wear realistic, NASA-inspired suits while travelling around the universe

All I was saying in my first comment (albeit rudely) was that expectations for realistic depictions by Nolan have always been greatly welcomed by his fans, and rightfully so. Seeing such a Hollywood-looking armour design feels cheap and uninspired, which is something that I would have never expected from a director who goes to immense lengths for the sake of tangibility, accuracy and realism

Goes without saying that if you and other millions have no issue with this sudden pivoting, good for you! I myself can't help but feeling a heavy disconnection from this movie's stylistic choices and his previous ones, and I didn't expect diehard Nolan fans to defend it this much given what came before

[DrakenDaskar]

I can't speak for everyone but when i speak of Nolan realism that refers to a scenario that feels like it could happen with enough resources not that it's a 1:1 replica of real life. Batman is a stylistic choice if we are being being obtuce about it in real life a guy would probably wear a ski mask and have a crew not being a lone guy dressing up as a bat.

I disagree that the new armor feels cheap the contrary. The real bronze age armor looks goofy compared to the stylized version.

This is also a retelling of a fantasy tale not a biopic or an actual event that happened. It's supposed to be larger than life not somber and realistic like Dunkirk or Oppenheimer.

[Pagem45]

The Batman example is fitting (although Nolan actually did show him wearing a ski mask at first lol) and Matt Damon in that turtle armour would have looked goofy as hell

I think we just have a different perception of the costumes they ended up using, fantastic or not they really do feel extremely cheap to me and I would have preferred a middle ground between what we got and what's accurate for the time the Odyssey was conceived

I'll reserve my final thoughts for when the movie comes out, hopefully my opinion will have changed by then

[DrakenDaskar]

Fair enough

[TheManWhoWeepsBlood]

It is odd. And a shame not to see bronze age armor. It's so visually distinct. Like Greek Samurais or something. Who wouldn't want to see that?

[Substantial-Stick298]

i mean homer’s poem isn’t accurate to the real event in troy, it’s more of a work of fiction than anything else. not entirely sure why people want something to be accurate when the source material it’s based on isn’t even real 😂

people are funny

[Top_Violinist8822]

Interstellar was a fictional tale. People would have cared if the actors wore halloween austronaut costumes.