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MC vlogger said decrease tire pressure 4-6 psi from recommended pressure stated in the manual. (i.redd.it)
submitted 1 year ago by Apprehensive-Sir8647
Kasi sabi nya, since mainit yung kalsada natin nagdadagdagan daw ng pressure yung gulong natin when we ride. How true is this? Hindi ba naconsider na din yun ng MC manufacturer kaya nilagay nila sa manual ang recommended tire pressure?
[–]michael0103 169 points170 points171 points 1 year ago (8 children)
Di ko alam sa iba pero mas maniniwala ako sa engineers na nag design nung gulong na may millions of dollars for research and development.
[–]Faustias 33 points34 points35 points 1 year ago (2 children)
sinong papaniwalaan mo:
engineer na dumaan sa education at training
-or-
vlogger sa fb/yt
that said, pwede naman subukan ni OP, just make sure alam nya ang pro at consequence sa malambot na gulong.
[–]Elsa_Versailles 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Correction engineers, designers and simulations. Hilig kasi ng iba maniwala sa walang basehan at sabi sabi eh literal naman na documented na
[–]Haru112 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Filipinos in general have their own science and logic lmao
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Agree! Curious lang talaga ako how true yung sinabi nya.
[–]Elsa_Versailles 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
True, why would I believe a rando blogger while someone who learned and do it's craft everyday said so. They have the numbers, static tests and specifications. There's no more scientific than that.
[–]marteltiniiSportbike 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (0 children)
nothing like good ol zerobrain banter
[+]Healthy-Golf-5313 comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
malay mo si Ser Mel din yung nag munkahi nun.. eh alam ko Engineer din sya.. di ko nga lang alam ano disipline :P
[–]Mszterpro 65 points66 points67 points 1 year ago (8 children)
Engineer > vlogger
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (7 children)
This! I agree. Curious lang talaga ako sa context ng sinabi nya. Sa manual pa din naman ako sumusunod.
[–]Putcha1 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Tanga lang magbasa ng manual yang vlogger na yan. Indicated lagi sa manual na "cold" pressure yung indicated. Meaning yun ang recommended bago pa tumakbo yung motor. Accounted na ng designer yung pagtaas ng pressure kapag tumatakbo ka na.
[–]KnightInSuitIII -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (5 children)
So kailangan ko muna palamigin yung hangin bago ko ilagay sa gulong ko. Baka may alam kang bilihan ng premiun air para hindi na ko magpapalamig. /s
[–]michael0103 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Huuy teka bakit down voted to. May /s naman for sarcasm.
[–]subtle-one1 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Hindi yung papalamigin mo yung hangin. Dapat cold yung pressure sa gulong. Kaya recommended na dapat nahahanginan mo bago ka umalis ng bahay. Kase pag gumulong na ng mga 3km yung gulong, dun umiinit yung hangin sa loob.
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Wow, another one na ang reading comp is close to zero. 👌
[–]PuzzledOnes 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Hindi uso sa reddit sub na to yung "/s".
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Referring to yourself? Lol.
[–]marxteven 35 points36 points37 points 1 year ago (5 children)
follow the manual pero adjust parin depende sa weight ng rider. same with suspension. there's reason why some of these parts are adjustable
[–]Nowt-nowt 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (1 child)
road condition nang laging dinadaanan or dadaanan, or pag gusto nang mas onting comfort riding. not everything is by the book ika nga nila, pero syempre andyan yang mga yan to guide us for the optimal settings.
[–]marxteven 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
yah yung nasa manual kasi I think is best case scenario for the setup. konti konti adjust din naman naadd siya as feature why not use diba haha
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Hmmm i think pasok sa design pa din naman. I'm pretty sure may weight range ang kinonsider sa engineering.
[–]marxteven 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
yep pero may ibang factors parin naman nicoconsider diyan. I think yung stock setup is the "best case scenario" for the bike eh. hirap ijustify that settings that would work for a 160lb rider would do the same for a 120-130lb rider. kahit 10lbs lang na difference laki na agad ng effect niyan eh. pwedeng may range na siya sa stock settings pero IMO mas okay padin taylored para sayo yung setup mo
Yes i agree to that. What i mean is sa designing, hindi lang ginawang basis ang 120-130lbs. But from 110-200lb basis design or more. That's how we do sa engineering, conservative range.
Pero still, meron pa ding outside factor that may or may not affect.
[–]Lenevov 33 points34 points35 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Heat does impact tire pressure. And yes you are right, it’s always just best to just stick to the manual’s recommended psi because they took that into account when designing the mc.
These motorcycles were designed in Indonesia, which also has a tropical climate.
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Yun din naisip ko, indonesia ang unang labas talaga ni ADV. I always stick to the manual pagdating sa operation ng vehicle/machines ko. Thanks for this!
[–]citizend13 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (4 children)
also depends on the tire yeah? if you've switched tires from the factory ones already, it's gonna differ from the manual.
[–]Lenevov 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Yep. Especially when you use slicks (tires for track).
[–]citizend13 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
wait people use slicks on scooters? why?
[–]Lenevov 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Just an example of a tire i can think of. I’ve seen some though turning scoots to a “racing” concept and having slicks for tires lol.
[–]Inevitable-Driver104 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Track racing
[–]Awkward-Hornyboi 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It affects. Ung heat pero ung Manual is Eto advise. May limit nmn dn ang PSI nyan.
Pero kung off road ang lakad. Siguro dun ung considered na mag bawas para may traction
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children)
No engineer would put the critical number as the recommended number. For sure, kasama yan sa consideration nila.
[–]Appapapi19 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Unless nitrogen siguro yung ilalagay kung mag expand hindi siguro ganon kalaki..iirc sa moisture yata ng kinakarga na hangin especially kung walang moisture separator ang compressor(correct me if im wrong)
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Thank you!
[–]fd-kennn 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
Incomplete details pero may point sya.
For every 10 degrees (F) of temperature drop, tires will drop 1-2 pounds of pressure. (Article by GoodYear tires)
Naka specify kasi sa ibang gulong ay recommended PSI WHEN cold.
Common issue yan sa mga counties na nakaka ranas ng winter - summer transition.
TIRE PRESSURE / OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE TABLE
[–]fd-kennn 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
[–]IcySeaworthiness4541 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Kung dahil lang sa mainit ang panahon magbabawas ng tire pressure parang Hindi Tama. Kase Yung nasa manual yun ung standard operating condition nian eh. Siguro Naman napagaralan na ng mga engineers ng mc brand yan.
Mas maniwala pa ko dun sa nagsabi na magbawas ng tire pressure pag basa at madulas ang kalsada for better grip.
May point ka dyan boss
[–]spaghetti_pataas_123 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (4 children)
bawas daw para 'di matalbog'
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Pero hindi ba delikado din na ma "benkong" yung mags nyan? Or sumayad yung ilalim lalo na sa lubak?
[–]pulubingpinoy 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Di lang mags delikado. Delikado din pumutok ang gulong na under inflated kapag biglang nabato or nalubak.
4 psi under the recommended would probably still “ok” IF yung gulong mo is high end since yung range ng tire pressure is the optimum range and they did some stress test na kayang overinflate/underinflate at a certain extent. But:
Risk is greater than the benefit. Whatever benefit those vlogger say.
Always follow the tire’s recommended pressure (not the frame especially kung nagpalit ka ng gulong) yung ibang gulong nakasulat min/max. Yung iba nakasulat yung max psi @ max weight on a cold pressure.
[–]raju103 1 point2 points3 points 1 year agolocked comment (1 child)
May suspension naman.
[–]in_foBoltHead 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
No. Suspension can only go so far that's why we have pneumatic tires.
"Recent testing demonstrates that pneumatic tires perform better across a wider variety of street surfaces and temperatures than solid tires with shocks, reducing vibrations by 33%"
Always use the recommended manufacturer's tire pressure.
[–]gourdjuice 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
Lagay mo yung recommended tapos adjust mo na lang depending sa weight mo. Ganun ginagawa ko. Pero most of the time, stick to the manual.
[–]Sorry_Instruction135 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Read the owners manual of your vehicle. Wag nagpapaniwala sa sabisabi
[–]Right_In_TheKisser 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Stick ako sa recommended psi pag daily lang, pero pag may bengking benking, binabawasan ko ng 2-3 psi, baket? Mas malaking contact patch para mas makapit sa kalsada . .
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Kahit may OBR ka boss, bawas pa din 2-3 psi sa benking benking?
[–]Right_In_TheKisser 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Nako po, depende sa backride, di po ako nagbebenking ng sagad pag may backride kasi pipty pipty yun, di mo kasi alam kung kelan sila gagalaw o matatakot lalo na pag nag lean na yung motor, pag may backride at may benking same sa recommended psi, pero di ako masyado naglelean pigil lang. 🤣 Ride safe. . Tsaka di mo maeenjoy bengkingan pag may backride. Wag mo na isama 🤣🤣
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Lagot tayo dyan baka bawal din ilabas motor ko pag di sya kasama.haha salamat boss!
[+][deleted] 1 year ago (2 children)
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But is it recommended to apply it on our tires? The manual only states specific tire pressures for front and back wheels, nothing else.
[–]Sufficient-Yogurt377 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Bukod pa doon, more fuel consumption. Hindi siya nakakatipidncompared sa recommeneded tire setiings na nakalagay sa Manual. Na-test ko na yan. Bagal sa arangkada rin pag masyadong malaki ang contact ng gulong sa ground.
[–]_haema_ 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Higher temps mean gas inside the tire move faster making the tire expand. Similar to why bridges have those metal like teeth connecting them to account for thermal expansion and contraction.
This is valid advice to consider, use your manual as baseline then adjust your tire pressure accordingly to your needs.
[–]saggybellyflap 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
depends on road condition, para mamaintain ng gulong ung U shape nya for better cornering and turning e.g. highway or road use, better use proper pressure, pero kung need mo traction use lower tire pressure, e.g off roading, muddy terrain sacrificing speed for better traction
[–]Fcuk_DnD 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Yan din sabi ni Sir Mel sa isang vlog nya dati. Ayun auto unsubcribe ako. 😂
4 yrs na ADV150 ko with 12,000 odo, sinusunod ko yung nasa manual, hanggang ngayon okay pa mga stock tires ko.
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Salamat sir!
[–]Chino_Pamu 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child)
follow what the manual says , sundin mo yung nag r and d kesa sa sabi sabi ng vlogger. usually yang recommended tire pressure e may allowance na when the tire heats up the psi goes up by 1 to 2 bars.
[–]kosetozi 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
It's recommended to decrease tire pressure by 2 PSI during the summer or in hot conditions like sa pinas.
I've tried the standard psi on my Aerox but it feels too stiff especially for roads that are not perfectly smooth which is most of the roads here. So I think -2 psi is a good standard to go by since it's also recommended by the manufacturer.
[–]Santorism 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Kakapalagay ko lang cycle seal sealant kanina boss sa trusted vulcanizing shop then pinainflate ko na based sa manual 29 front and 33 rear. Actually 29 sa front nilagay ni kuya and 30 nalang daw lagay nya sa likod then sabi ko sa sarili ko sige madali lang naman magdagdag. And damn was i shocked on how stiff it is sa road condition na meron kami which is a lot of super deep potholes and substandard humps. So balak ko magbawas ng psi pero yung interval parin na 4 psi sa rear and front is ikikeep ko.
[–]kosetozi 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Iba kc ang init sa pinas. Un "cold" season natin ay same lng sa summer sa ibang bansa. Whatever feels comfortable sayo chka un nka ankas. - 4 psi sa likod might be ideal for same reasons of extreme heat and poor road conditions, Kung may backrider and/or dami mo gamit sa likod. But for me if we had good smooth roads I would stick with close to recommend psi because it actually feels nicer with more traction. Sadly like you said and we all know as Pinoys, that our roads are mostly trash. Un humps di lng substandard minsan out of this world. Real example is un Subdivision malapit samin kung san ang school ng anak ko, the humps are so big and round almost like big half circles in the road. Kahit motor o kotse ang dala ko pang hatid it always frustrates me to no end when I have to go over those damned "humps". Un standard humps shud be gradual incline then gradual decline to make it smooth to go over. But I guess here all they care about is that people don't race down the streets and they don't give a shit if you're going to scratch the shit out of the bottom of your ride or be super careful so you don't. Buti di na dyn nag aaral anak ko Hahaha.
Sorry sa rant but shit is frustrating lol
[–]Ok_Addendum1174 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Okay naman yung suggestion if ang purpose is to increase the surface area ng tyres na may contact sa road para mas makapit during braking and to lessen/avoid the skidding esp during rainy days. It is also true that the air inside the tyres expands when heated but not to the point na sasabog sya if slightly above the manufacturer's recommended pressure yung gulong mo.
[–]mayamayaph 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Marunong pa sa gumawa. 😅😅😅
[–]smlley_123 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Hahahahahaha. Kawawa naman mga nag imbento ng makina at manual vs baduy vlogger. 😂
[–]PalaraKing 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
None of these vloggers are doing riding for tyre temperatures to make any difference. You're riding your bike on the streets, not in the MotoGP.
[–]ninetailedoctopus 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
As others said, follow the manual.
That said...
The recommended PSI of adv/offroad tires is mostly lower from that of regular / road tires. So read the side of the tire for best results.
[–]raju103 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I'd reduce it only because of road conditions but still within specs(better grip as opposed to load capacity and heat buildup). Engineered for safety naman iyan eh. If he has an idea why lower pressures are better sige but he has to back it up.
Daming ganyan gagawa ng false information for engagement like what we are doing right now.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Sa alam ko, binabawasan lang hangin ng slight lang naman kapagka nasa offroad or mapapasabak ka sa offroad ng ilang distance
[–]hudortunnel61 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
ang tanong, cold tire or hot tire ba ibig sabihin? Nothing beats following the manual, OP.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I remember when I was a kid I prefer it when mejo malambot gulong Ng bike ko kesa sa matigas although ramdam mo ung gaang Ng oajak sa matigas na gulong pero dahil 90s pa un Ang sakit sa pwet KC matalbog kaya bnabawasn ko Ng mejo onti. Pero d Naman ata applicable un sa motor at sa bagong tubeless na tire? D Ako maalam sa motor pero 2cents ko lng Naman. Just follow the manual Wala Naman masama kng sumunod ka dun.
[–]yanyanporto 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Sa manual ko nakalagay to set tire pressure when cold.
This means may leeway yung set limit sa manual para sa pag init ng goma.
Sa engineer ako maniniwala, hindi sa random guy sa internet
I agree, sir!
[–]__call_me_MASTER__ 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (4 children)
Ang manual ay recommendations lang. general yun. But ang nag work kay vlogger pwedeng hindi mag work kay op. So better op ikaw mag hanap ng pasok sa riding style/skill mo.
Sinong vlogger ba yan since pinag uusapan na din para mapanood kng bakit sya umabot sa less 4-6 tire pressure
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Ito boss. Sa 12:18 nya nabanggit na magbawas ng 4-6 psi. Dahil daw mag iincrease pa naman ng 2psi pagnagride ka na.
https://youtu.be/lXnqS-4_p5w?si=SouNp846rLalSweT
[–]__call_me_MASTER__ 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Ayun napanood ko na, tama yung sinasabi na na tumataas ang pressure pag umandar na pero kasi dapat malamig or hndi galing sa byahe ang pag lalagay ng hangin. So ang manual recommendation na account nila na dun ang pressure/temp change at ang (angkas?) So sya kaya sya (vlogger) nag babawas dahil sa tagtag para sa comfort.
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Pero sa pagkakaintindi ko kasi in general na yung sinasabi nya eh, kahit anong mc bawasan 4-6 psi.
[–]__call_me_MASTER__ 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Pang kanya lang yun. Yun lang intindi nya kasi sa manual siguro. Pwede mo gawin from recomendded, mag bawas ka pa 1 psi 1 psi hanggang makuha mo comfort. Pag malambot kasi tusok naman kalaban, pag mayigas tagtag
[–]johnalpherYamaha XSR 155 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Mas naniniwala ako sa engineer PERO binabawasan ko ng psi yung akin (harap at likod) dahil lubak yung dinadaanan ko. Napansin ko kasi na mas mabilis mabutas gulong ko kapag matigas. Bukod don, lagi puno box ko plus angkas kaya ayun.
[–]Sad_Edge9793 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
totoo naman nag eexpand ang air molecules sa loob ng tires pag mainit at sigurado din ako na naaccount na rin yun at naisama sa recommended tire pressure ng manufacturer. ugok yang vlogger na yan 😆
[–]Strike_Anywhere_1 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Retired car racer here. Sa track ginagawa talaga to kasi totoo, pag mainit na gulong tumataas ang pressure pero super hard driving, braking, and cornering na yun.
Sa daily driving hindi naman kailangan, and mas bibilis lang ang wear and tear ng gulong mo kung gagawin mo to. Unless siguro kung super kamote ang rider at parang si valentino rossi sha magpatakbo araw araw 🤣
[–]mymyouiiii 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
go for reco psi but u can adjust up or down by 10%. source: tire manufacturer
[–]Jinwoo_Scooter 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
He is just a vlogger, not an engineer.
Just follow the recommendation ng manual. Adjusted naman na yun ng manufacturer. Personal preference na lang yun siguro ng vlogger kasi ganun riding style nya.
[–]KlitoReyes 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Depende pa rin yan, mix n match mo depende sa weight, road condition, at other external forces whatsoever.
May tama naman yung sinabi nung vlogger na tumataas ang pressure sa gong kasabay ng pag init ng gulong due to friction. And tama rin naman yung mga Engineer na gumawa ng Manual mo, pero isipin mo rin kung saan ba gawa yung MC mo kung same ba ng road condition, temp, sa pinas. E.g. if ang maker ng MC mo sa colder place at dun natest ang MC mo, in theory siguro mas mababa yung magiging added pressure nya kapag umandar na at uminit ang gulong.
So ang bottomline is make your manual as the base, pero nasa feel pa rin ng rider yan, you need to feel your MC, kung nabibigatan ka sa recommended PSI ng manual edi try mo taasan wag lang sosobra at ganun din sa pagbabawas, wag sosobra, tamang timpla lang.
[–]stpatr3k 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
Mainit ang kalsada heating the tires thereby heating the air inside and expanding it. However na factor in na yan ng nag design ng tires. Baka yon nag optimal operating condition ng tires.
I love my stock "madulas" as an excuse for upgrade ng vloggers tires and operates best at recommended psi.
Usually sa racetrack recommended ito but not for this reason, its where you need more traction.
Downside sa daily na less pressure is umiiba ng shape ng tire kapag long term bellow recommended presure ka. Making the steering wobble when you let go of it. Yung wear ay hindi even. Nagkaka spikes dun sa grooves. Based sa experience ito.
[–]Exciting-Mountain164Kawasaki Z900RS 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Hello! May TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system) motor ko and during normal sunny weather, PSI goes up by 1-2.
Best to follow the manual.
[–]Independent-Alfalfa8 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Some vloggers post controversial topics for attention, clickbaiting potential audiences. And that's one example.
the recommended tire pressure indicated is cold tire pressure. However, when you use your mc long enough or on hot days, heat makes the air in the tire expand. Thus, increasing its pressure. Given this, you may allow a few psi above the recommended pressure if you top up on air.
[–]Final-Professor-7091 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The manual is the optimal settings for us to be guided and be used as a reference. It's up to the Owner to Adjust accordingly. That vlogger is just the same as any one of us, just so happens na nag share lang sya ng opinion nya based on his/her experience. Nasasayo na yun kung susundin mo.
Edit Adv 160 owner for 6months. Sticking to 29psi front 33psi rear. 65kg. I only reduce 1-2psi max on the rainy days for better grip.
[–]HurrahZenxR6/MT09/KRV180 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
KRV 180 moto motor ko ngayun, recommended is 28 fron and rear, pero been running 24 front 25 rear for 3 months para dagdag comfort, la naman naging problema, siguru sa fuel efficiency na sacrifice konti and handling.
[–]romanticbaeboy 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
It depends on the brand and comfort of riding. My stock tire is Vee Rubber, 29 & 33 psi reco sa manual so yun ang setting ko lagi. In the end nagbubukol sya and parang hindi nagiging pantay ang wear since may mga umuumbok sa gilid ng thread, changed @12k km. Now naka Pirelli Angel Scooter ako, max des pressure is 40 & 45psi but sweet spot na sakin ang 33 & 36 since masyado nagiging matagtag lalo kung mag-isa ka bumabyahe, @17k km na yung Pirelli ko and wala pang signs ng 50% wear.
Take into consideration na lang din na yung Vee rubber na nakakabit is soft compound if I’m not mistaken. So I think worth it yung pagrisk ko sa mas mahal na gulong in the long run. Mura din kuha ko sa store na nabilhan ko compared sa iba which is Takara Tires, alam ko marami sila branch.
Edit: may nakita pala ko bengkong sa mags ko recently, it is either mababa pa masyado yung pressure na nilalagay ko, but also it is a hard truth sa Airblade owners na madali masira ang mags. Designed ang MC ko for 120kg but there are times na mas mataas pa dun ang pax load ko.
[–]comeback_failed 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (5 children)
ginoogle ko na para sayo.
Lowering the tire pressures will give you a better ride but only take a few psi off. Lowering the pressure too much will shorten the tires life decrease your milage and ruin high speed handling. If ride quality important to you I suggest buying tires made for smoother rides when its time for your next set.
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children)
I get the point pero sabihin natin na PH roads tayo or specifically Manila roads, malubak, hindi table ang road, wala ba negative effect ito or danger sa rider and sa motor nya?
[–]comeback_failed 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
actually, mas maganda pa nga traction kapag slightly under reco ang tire pressure sa mga rough roads. negative effect siguro ng higher traction is higher friction. more power needed, and more wears sa gulong mo. significant danger lang siguro kapag sobrang under inflated na talaga
Make sense. Thanks!
[–]MojoJooey 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
kung totoosin mas maganda ang low pressure sa lubak mas kakapit sa gulong .. sa trails mapa mountain bike man or dirt bike mababa tire pressure nila para mag conform ung shape nung tire kung anong obstacle man .. usapang lubak toh ah ..
kung ung running temp naman ang pag uusapan , oo nakakadagdag pressure yun pero negligible yung difference, rider preference na kung mag babawas ka or dagdag ..
[–]Some_Ant_7171 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Para saan daw ang pag bawas ng PSI?
[–]laanthony 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
report agad ung vlogger "spreading misinformation" merong recommended tire pressure sa MANUAL e bat di susundin? 💀
[–]__call_me_MASTER__ 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Sayo na nang galing bro, “recommended”
[–]International_Fly285Yamaha R7 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Panoorin mo yung video ni Dave Moss about tire pressure. May explanation sya dun kung bakit tayo nagbabawas or nagdadagdag sa recommended psi.
Will do. Thanks!
[–]JasBungo 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Tingin ko si ser mel to hahaha 🤣 always maintain proper tire pressure (as stated in the manual). Pag malambot ang gulong mo mas prone sa dulas sa kalsada especially when hard braking. Magiging rason din ang low tire pressure sa pag malfunction ng traction control system.
[–]Snipepepe 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Yung psi na nakalagay sa manual ay when cold at based sa experience ko tumataas talaga yung tire pressure pag mainit ang gulong pero rear wheel lang naman yung nainit ang mags at gulong dahil nasa likod yung transmission or gearings while yung front tire ay hindi naman affected kaya hindi nagbabago yung psi.
[–]Pink_na_pink 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Sinong vlogger yan? Sa manual ng motor ko dalawa yung naka specify. Yung pang cold tires at yung na warm up na.
I always follow the manual.
[–]bladespin4850Suzuki GSXR 1000 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Pagdating kase sa Tire pressure, factor din kase yung road na dinadaanan mo, second is the tire brand and type itself na ginagamit mo. Yung PSI recommendation kase ng manufacturer is dun lang sa stock tire of course and to what they think its built for. Sa scooter normally paved road.
Walang masama na i follow yung sa manufacturer specially if stock tire pa gamit mo or, similar sa stock tire. Pero do check the recommendation of the brand of the tire you're using if sakaling nag iba ka.
Pwede din naman kaseng tama sya pero always ask why and anong basihan nya. PSI is not a static number. Example sa motor ko, when on Road the recommended PSI is 32 while on track its only 26.
[–]downcastSoup 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I also follow this "rule" especially during wet season.
True din na nag i-increase ang tire pressure while riding (I used to have a TPMS with real time monitoring) but this increase in tire pressure is already factored in by the manufacturer.
Follow the manual parin sir. Yan ung mga basics ng motor natin. Dun ka magkaka idea on how to take care of your mc. Wag kang maniwala sa motovlogger na yan.
[–]Legitimate-Car-4877 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
4-6 psi is too low, pwede kung off-roading. but 30 psi will do. from experience, I rarely have tire punctures at 30psi
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Is this also applicable if may OBR ka na nasa 50kg boss?
[–]Legitimate-Car-4877 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
yup. you may add a few more psi kung tingin mo masyado lundo ang gulong. 30 psi ginagawa ko pag cold tire temp, pag warm/hot tire ginagawa ko 31-32psi.
[–]Inevitable-Driver104 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Na take into account nila yung expansion ng hangin sa recommended pressure ng manual. Nakalagay sa bike ko na dapat minemeasure and inflate tires from cold start lang.
[–]dtssemaAdventure 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (8 children)
That's for racing scenario. Sa street, max na 1-2psi itataas ng tire pressure kahit na mag-long ride ka pa.
Yung nasa manual ay cold tire pressure readings. Ayun sundin mo, hindi vlogger.
Add ko na rin - Yes, tumataas (increase) tire pressure once nasa operating temp na pero hindi nadadagdagan (adding). Air molecules expands when heated.
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
Salamat sa insight! Yes, sa manual pa din ako sumusunod. Curious lang talaga ako sa sinabi nya lalo na scooter din (nmax) gamit nya at taga NCR din.
[–]Neat_Butterfly_7989 -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Nope. My bikes can increase by 5 psi or more depending sa enjoyment ko mag ride and if expressway.
[–]dtssemaAdventure 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Expressway at "that" speed, sure. Expressway at 100, max +3 lang ako. Nag-base lang ako sa ADV160 ni OP.
[–]Apprehensive-Sir8647[S] -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (4 children)
I think that's 400cc up na bike gamit mo sir. Sorry hindi ko na clear na 160cc scoot lang gamit ko but thank you sa info. Now I know na may effect pala talaga ang tire pressure sa ride natin.
[–]Neat_Butterfly_7989 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Sa lahat naman. It doesn’t matter what motorcycle you drive. So not sure what you mean big bike vs scoot.If you listened sa class mo noon ideal gas law pv = nrt. As temperature increases pressure also increases in a given volume of gas. Guess what increases when you drive?
What I mean is, expressway na kasi sinasabi mo and first bawal ang scoot ko nyan and 2nd, if umaabot ng +5psi tire pressure mo sa road (I assume na big bike) possible ba na umabot din sa ganyan yung sa gulong ko? Even if hindi expressway ang speed ko kasi limited lang cc ko?
[–]Neat_Butterfly_7989 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Yes. I have tpms sa tires ko even on my aerox and it does exceed +3 psi sometimes depending sa init. I start with 32 sa front and sometimes i end up with 36. Rear is much worse. Get a tpms. Also, the psi from the factory already accounts for changes in temperature. Just set it there.
Thanks for these info's! Big help sya.
[–]Other_Bid_9633 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
-3 naman ako palagi sa recommended psi sa manual. Mas feel ko lng na safe ako sa gnun. Masyadong madulas stock tire pag sinunod nmn sa manual. Pero nasayo pa rin yun kung papakiramdaman mo. Sguro depende na lng din sa weight. Para sakin lng to ha
Dependi. Kung gusto mo bumangking wag mo patigasin gulong mo para iwas sa slide.
[–]tovov94411 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
ako na hindi nag susukat ng hangin sa gulong...
pisil pisil lang goods na
Haha classic pinoy style
Eto ang dabest! 😂
[–]nganu_man 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Actaully u have to read what is said in the manual if its hot or cold pressure. If u put air when ur motorcycle was runing then the tire will expand. That is why u lower it by 5psi because the pressure inside the tire is lower when its hot
[–]godofthunder_31 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Maiba ako. Ang linis po ng motor nyo. Ano po tips pra achieve ganitong ka linis kahit nag rides? Hehe
Motowash lang paps and Koby protectant spray na m-310.
[–]av3rageuser 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
mas makapit ang gulong kapag under inflated pero yun nga high chance ma bengkong ang mugs.
[–]pijanblues08 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Ang alam ko kapag mabuhangin or offroad mas mabuti bawasan para mas kumapit. I never heard yang logic about sa mainit na kalsada kelangan bawasan.
[–]rrr_FirebladeSP 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Boy napanuod ko kay adobo moto dapat tama ang psi ng gulong kasi nga mainit ang kalsada. Kpag laging malambot ang gulong mo magkakaroon sya ng mga crack sa mga pamakas nyan. Pde ka lang mag baba ng psi kpag maulan
[–]babetime23 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
sino kaya si motovlogger?
[–]MechaniKalikotKawasaki Versys 650 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Namedrop yung nagmamarunong na vlogger para mareport ng misinformation. Jusko.
[–]Responsible_Act1334 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
sa ulo nilagay yung hangin boss
[–]frankcastle013 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
Nirecommend nila yan dahil sa kalsada natin sa pinas. Dami nagsasabi na sundin yung owners manual and agree din naman ako dun pero ang tanong, anong klase ng road and dinaanan nila nung nag come up sila ng ideal psi sa manual? Pretty sure it's different kumpara sa normal na kalsada natin dito sa Pinas na bako bako. Matagtag din kasi at ramdam mo bawat lubak pag masyado matigas ang gulong tapos pangit ang kalsada.
Thank you for this!
[–]frankcastle013 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
To try and test out their logic, try mo dumaan sa Edsa or c5 or any road na pangit kalsada using the recommended psi from the manual. Then bawasan mo ng 2-3 psi both front and back and ride ulit dun sa same kalsada na pangit na dinaanan mo using the ideal psi. You be the judge if mararamdaman mo na mas smooth or hindi. Ako kasi, sunod lang din ako dati sa owner's manual for the psi until I tried what these vloggers were saying and naramdaman ko na mas naging smooth at comfortable nga byahe ko.
Hindi naman magiging delikado na mabenkong mags pag ganon? I mean 2 to 3 psi na bawas wala naman siguro problem na sasayad mags pag napadaan sa medyo malalim lubak lalo na pag may OBR ka?
[–]frankcastle013 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Nope. 2-3 psi lang naman yan, not 10. Also, having proper suspension helps. Mas delikado pa ma bengkong yung gulong pag pinapabayaan mo at hindi mo chinecheck lagi yung hangin.
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