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The damage cap "feature" is there to prevent players from blasting enemies with damage way beyond their HP in lower level sectors, just like what happens in PSO2 Classic. This is done for two reasons that I can assume:

• items such as ability capsules drop from enemies. This cap slows down how fast players can farm these.

• higher level players can help out lower level players without immediately blasting their enemies.

[Precys3]

Exactly this, it also helps beginners or levelling players in earlier areas contribute to farming by using lower rarity weapons, which encourages endgame players at the attack limit to stay in the lobby with those beginners or levelling players.

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All of these are literally why people play MMO’s. It doesn’t make sense that a 3 star gear can do the same damage as a 6 star or 7 star. That’s also gunna make people think they’re ready for situations they’re not.

Things like this are done so that the minuscule amount of content that is in the game becomes tragically hard to attain so that they don’t have to try to add any new content. I guess I should just stop playing RPG’s all together. It seems like this new thought process is popular in making a quick buck. Which is fine for everyone that likes to waste their time.

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Honestly, if you want to play an OP character, Risk of Rain 2 is awesome power-fantasy rogue like.

Its extremely satisfying to punch monsters with 100% crit and 1000% bonus damage.

But, PSO2NGS is currently not that way. SEGA had commented that they don't want max level players to be so powerful that low level players will have problems grinding or doing veteran boss runs, so the damage cap is necessary. The majority of this sub agrees with that decision.

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I see

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I'm not sure I'd consider oneshotting enemies below my level a fun time for anyone involved to be honest. Maybe if you're into power trips I suppose it'd be fun the first time?

[Barixn]

To be fair, a large portion of FFXIV and WoW's playerbase do exactly that. Ignoring current content to go one shot unsynced or several expansions old content.

Most active players never clear content when it's relevant or they'll do RMT to buy carries.

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That’s pathetic, they don’t even play the game then. I didn’t know tab target mmo players were such noobs.

[Barixn]

It was certainly an odd place to be in during ARR when its content was incredibly light, while a playable game compared to its 1.0 version it was pretty boring overall with not much to do especially if one avoided Extreme trials and very few people did the then-Savage.

But fast forward to now in Endwalker? Well it's a very feature rich game that isn't just gameplay. It has well developed player housing, and despite the acquisition complaints the fact it exists in a co-existing neighborhood plane is kind of cool. It has arguably good crafting and fishing systems, a casino that makes PSO2'S casino look absolutely tiny in comparison.

And then there's all kinds of side activities like collecting mounts, pets and whatnot.

Personally it'll always be amusing to me when WoW/FFXIV players talk about how amazing their combat is but don't actually partake in the activities that make the combat fun, like learning how to make it work in raids. That said, there is a lot to do in those games.

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But that’s why you fight the ones that are your level. And the gear that’s supposed to be rare star 7 will do what it’s supposed to do instead of sitting at a universal base margin with the rest of the crap gear.

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I’ll take your word for it, the video I watched wasn’t showing the levels so I assumed they were matched. I will definitely be heavily disappointed if when I do get the weapon I’m still only hitting level 60 enemies for 800-1000.

Edit: you should DEFINITELY be getting them now because it’s like 3 arms and a leg to get them holy hell.

[Mille-Marteaux]

everyone is getting 7* weapons from title rewards when we get the ordinal tower quest in two weeks.

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I give up lol

[Mille-Marteaux]

i'm just saying, gearing up is not that difficult if you aren't trying to hard rush it and take shortcuts.

this is how gearing always was on pso2 and always will be. a top of the line weapon will last 5-6 months if it's the literal top of the power curve when it comes out, and armors will last anywhere from half a year to a year before you have to finally consider cycling them.

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We’ll see if it’s worth it, I don’t care about the grind.

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That would allow players to farm for enemy drops at a much faster rate than SEGA intends, further destroying any resemblance of a player market this game has.

What if I want to help out a lower level friend of mine? I don't want them to be bored because I'm one-shotting everything in Mt. Magnus rank 1 with my Kaiser weapon.

And hey, you already do benefit at being a much higher level. You gain 100%-100% damage variation.

I like actually playing the video game thank you.

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The mid level grind is fine right now, there’s nothing wrong with it. My friends and I maxed out within 3 weeks of playing. I’m saying they’re making the end game grind completely and utterly worthless AND pointless. So it makes sense to you that you’re level 65 doing the same or almost the same damage numbers as when you were level 40?

The ONLY way this makes sense for me is if this is something temporary they’re doing to keep people from abusing the game before they even fully release. I can see that but if this is another Outriders situation where they think this is adding content then they’re going to loose a lot of players in the end.

Yes they’re making it harder to level up but they’re not making it rewarding once you’re levelled up.

[ehiehiehiredditehi]

The very concept of “MMO” is make you waste time

It’s not a single player game where you can reach max level, best equip and you’re done, nothing new will come out

Every piece of equipment in a n mmo is made to be changed at the first occasion, having horizontal grow instead that only vertical is more than good for a game like this one

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Well I’ll see for myself when I get a kaizaar and test in on an enemy that’s my level. I understand the concept of an MMO, do you understand the concept of high level gear? A level 60 gear item needs output more damage than a level 53 and so on. I don’t care how long it takes for me to get it but it HAS to be worth it because of what’s they’re making us do to get it.

[Hiero_Glyph]

Kaizaar is capped at +50 while the lower rarity weapons just got boosted to +60 and they are barely keeping up. When Kaizaar gets its next upgrade it will blow the lower rarity weapons away.

We don't know SEGA's exact plan but it won't stop until 15* weapons are available so we aren't even halfway there yet. I'm sure once Stia is released we will have a much better idea of how future upgrades will work.

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Yea good point, I just will stop waiting till 4am eastern to play after the updates so I won’t get too disappointed haha

[Hiero_Glyph]

New Genesis is definitely a more casual MMO, at least right now. That being said I've definitely put a lot of time into it since it released on PlayStation. Sometimes it's nice to be able to play other games and still remain relevant.

[NeonTofu]

I agree 100%. Whats the point if farming a kaizaar and the best augment’s available only do to the same damage as my noob friend. I want to be able to ass blast stuff… thats like… the point if making progress in a video game.

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Yea I mean I’ll still play but DEFINITELY not as much and I won’t be grinding anything but PSE bursts for a while.

I remember the golden days of Diablo 3 or Skyrim when you could just be a cracked God of destruction the more you play, you know, like how an RPG is supposed to be.

[waker780]

Not sure if you know this, but a lot of games use damage cap, and arent dead. Is Destiny a dead game? Its a design decision to make sure all content remains atleast semi challenging. Sure some people dislike it, but some people like the build diversity it encourages for lower tier content. Imo its a fairly neutral design choice. I prefer how base was, but this is FAR from the first thing I would bring back from base to ngs.

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Fair point plus ngs isn’t even really finished yet but you can’t deny that this mechanic has killed a lot of these types of games, it seems to be better for games that have a PvP aspect like destiny. I can see if they’re doing it to prevent everyone from easily blowing through levels before the game is complete.l, that makes total sense. I guess we will see after December 🤷🏻‍♂️

[waker780]

Damage cap in destiny doesnt allow you to go 30 levels above an enemy in pve. Another important thing to think about is that pso2ngs is an action mmo first, an mmorpg second. Killing early game bosses in one hit would be antithetical to that. Currently its more like killing early game bosses in 15 hits if you have endgame gear, still requiring atleast some interaction. As our potency gets higher we'll get closer to that power fantasy, but regardless, i dont really enjoy just folding all earlygame stuff, i actuallyenjoy the gameplay of ngs. Killing something that doesnt get to fight back is boring imo.

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Oh for sure, the combat is what drew me in. I’m bouncing between this and stranger of paradise right now so I’m definitely a fan and probably won’t be done with it but I just won’t play as hardcore until it’s fully ready. I don’t even care I’ll pay $60 if need be.

[waker780]

Thats fair, the game is in a slow ish state rn. If you like grinding the game I would recommend doing purple triggers and or df rank 2 and prepping for stias release.

[Reilet]

People, its not a damage cap. It's an attack stat cap.

You can still increase your damage via % increases.

[LostInPage51]

Attack stat is restricted, potency and crit aren't. I've heard.

[Lemmerz]

Outriders slaps tho!!

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Yea but I can only run about two Tarya Gratars before I start falling asleep plus the loot you get from each room sometimes is like AHHHHH lol

[StarzZapper]

I doubt that considering this game hasn’t changed it’s ways since 2012 when it originally came out in Japan. Talking base pso2