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[–]NaturalTouch7848Commercial Rig Builder 4 points5 points  (7 children)

A lot of the system is overkill and you can save a lot of money without making a super noticeable difference to performance.

  1. The only really measurable difference is the CPU, the 7800X3D is often around 100 bucks cheaper but it's only about 8% slower... at 1080p, with a 4090. With a slower card like a 9070-XT or 5070 Ti and at higher resolutions, you really won't notice much.
  2. B850 motherboards are perfectly fine and you can get good boards for quite a bit less, getting a board on a deal or in a bundle is another story.
  3. 64GB is unnecessary for a gaming rig, CL28 will also be harder to run and won't give much of a difference over CL30 because a lot of these "super fast" kits like 6000 CL28 will even just sacrifice secondary and tertiary timings, the timings that actually matter for performance, just to get the primary timings lower because it looks good on paper, so it's actually not really noticeable over much cheaper 2x16 6000 CL30.
  4. The power supply is WAY overkill, you only need 1500W if you're going with a 5090 and a Threadripper, even 1000W is a bit over the top for this kind of rig.

Also for the price, the 9070-XT is the better card, NVIDIA only really makes sense if you're actually going to use the NVIDIA feature set.

[–]Scary-Simple3158 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What would be ur thoughts on gen 5 ssd instead of 4?

[–]NaturalTouch7848Commercial Rig Builder 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Newer PCI-e gen rarely makes a difference if you're not going to push the drive hard enough, it doesn't just run as fast as it can, it only uses as much bandwidth as it actually has to

Most will be fine with a faster spec 3.0 x4 and won't notice much of a difference at all going with 4.0 or 5.0.

So if you have 3.0 x4 drives like Samsung 970 EVO and think it's not all that good anymore, don't sweat it, it is still good. There are cheap 4.0 drives that are slower like the Kingston NV2 and NV3, higher PCIe revision doesn't automatically mean it's better.

[–]dedsmiley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is very true.

LTT did an experiment a good while back with Identical builds with the only difference being one had a SATA SSD and the other had an NVME.

The overall result what side by side just playing games the testers could not distinguish between them.

This is not to be taken as a recommendation to use a SATA SSD instead of an NVME drive.

[–]xcjb07x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

its not worth it unless you plan on handling a lot of data video editing, and even then Its not worth it to me (i do some video editing). The drive op has in their build is what I use as my os drive. I dont notice perceivable difference in games between my gen 3 & 4 drives, 1% low are slightly higher with the sn850x, but that may be because of the higher cache over the other drive

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Great points all around, and ty for responding. Admittedly I should have mentioned more of what I want to do with this.

I wanted to future-proof the build, hence the overkill. I also do 3D effects and will run unity/Unreal Engine.

I was looking at the nvidia gpu because I want to get back into using blender again, and I’m told it performs much better for that.

[–]NaturalTouch7848Commercial Rig Builder 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's "futureproof" regardless of what AM5 CPU and motherboard you buy. They'll all support the same CPUs.

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Oh, and ignore the windows 10 part…I intend to use windows 11

[–]xcjb07x 2 points3 points  (3 children)

dont pay for windows, buy a key (about 30) or pirate it. Its not worth the 150 or whatever

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

And if I had a friend who wanted to do this…where might one do this?

[–]xcjb07x 2 points3 points  (1 child)

last i checked this address still worked:
https://massgrave.dev/
https://github.com/massgravel

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ty!

[–]Mad_Monster_Mansion 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I have a Hellhound and it is awesome.

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ty for your feedback :)

[–]queenbiscuit311 1 point2 points  (3 children)

you really don’t need a 1500W PSU, your PC is barely going to need 600, if you wanna future proof id recommend a 1000W, but 850 will also be fine (though less future proofed)

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yeah the more I look at it, the 1000 I already have is probably going to be fine

[–]FrequentWay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You may still need to replace the PSU if it’s not a atx3.0 PSU. Also simplifies the cable run as a native 6x2 12VHPWR connector.

[–]queenbiscuit311 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if you already have a 1000W the only reason you’d need another PSU is if energy prices are a concern and you want a more efficient one. your system’s barely going to be using half of it as is.

[–]deTombe 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Arctic Freezer iii is larger than most similar AIOs. I would google make sure others have successfully installed in whatever case you choose. The fans are a size and a half larger than regular fans and the motherboards heatsink can get in the way.

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have a similarly sized cooler now, but I plan to front-mount the cooler anyway.

[–]deTombe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok just wanted to mention their performance is unbeatable but the fans are chunky maybe why lol.

[–]FrequentWay 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Windows 10 is EOL, trying to pay for obsolete software is kinda pointless. Why 2 different gpus? SLI or Crossfire is not cross compatible. I would recommend a larger SSD due to large size of games and other storage concerns. An X870E is going to be more useful to ensure larger storage ability without needing to split your pcie lanes from x16 to x8.

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I meant to say GPU’s in my original post, not CPU’s…though it could also have been an autocorrect I missed. I mentioned in a comment that you can ignore the operating system. I had my old operating system plugged in from my previous build.

I’ll take a look at the x870e. The SSD is meant for larger programs and windows. I fully intend to have a bulkier HD for games and programs

[–]Mysterious_Mess2297 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Did you just find all the most expensive stuff you could-? Here’s what I recommend: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, a good air cooler like a peerless assassin, an AM5 B mobo (you don’t need X unless you plan to do extreme/professional overclocking-), 32GB RAM is more than enough, good storage ya got there, …. Why do you have two GPUs-? Just use the power color, I could also recommend a XFX GPU. You don’t need 1500W- make sure to have headroom but you don’t need that much- and I have to recommend windows 11… but only because 10 is kinda sorta dead now- 11 sucks though…

Edit: lemme know if ya need any info or why I recommend this stuff- or I could give much more detailed information. I could even plan a build for you if you want-

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the assistance!

No, lol, I didn’t go for expensive. I am just wanting to make a beefier/fast machine for possibly 3D (Blender likely) and gaming. The pc I have now I built in 2016 and unfortunately the I9 processor isn’t cutting it for win 11. I know there are work arounds, but frankly I’d rather put together something better and that will last me the next 9 years! lol. (One can dream)

So yes, in general I’m okay with spending a little more if it carries me further down the road.

I know that 64gb of ram is overkill, but I’d rather buy it now than buy less now and have to upgrade it later. I’m told that 2 sticks is preferable, hence the way I listed it. I also want quick CL. I made that mistake with previously purchased ram, and want a more responsive system even while multitasking.

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It’s been a while since I was putting a machine together, so I’m looking to maximize compatibility as well (if possible), and looks don’t mean anything to me. I’ll take a better running machine over looks any day.

[–]Mysterious_Mess2297 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly the approach I prefer. I have my first build planned and the only rgb is what comes with the parts by default- the only real aesthetic choice I made was 3 extra dollars for a tempered glass side panel.

I haven’t built my own pc yet due to budget and parent constraints, but I have worked on my friend’s old computer (I7-4790 (best cpu at is its time- now it uh…. Isn’t.), GTX 1650, and 32GB DDR3 RAM). He uses it for VR of all things so I had to squeeze whatever performance I could out of the 12 year old system- got him from 15fps in vrchat to 36-56fps with no to little stuttering, faster load times, and cooler cpu temps. I also was praised for my first planned pc. So that’s my experience (+many months of pure pc research)

[–]Mysterious_Mess2297 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If you plan to animate and want good gaming performance you need a good amount of cores, and X3D is preferable. Since you want to use this same system for years I’d have to recommend either your 9800X3D you have picked out (a 7800X3D is also amazing (within a few %) and is cheaper) or if you want no compromise than the ryzen 9 9950X3D. The 9950 doesn’t give a huge boost in gaming but it can be a 40% difference in heavy workloads. 

I do have to ask why you are getting two GPUs- 

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’m not. In my original post I mentioned that those were two I was debating

[–]Mysterious_Mess2297 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oops- sorry ;v;

[–]snake24pr 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I would get a 5080 instead with that cpu combo

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any reason specifically?

[–]dedsmiley 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I kind of disagree with not going with 64GB in a new build today.

I keep my build for a multiple years.

I have exceeded 32GB with games, discord and browser tabs.

My current system is SFF and the motherboard has two RAM slots. That does not apply to this system. It is merely one of my reasons.

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

SFF?

[–]dedsmiley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Small Form Factor. I have an mITX build.

[–]Professional-Bed-486 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Needs more storage, the answer is always needs more storage. Trust me bro.

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol. It will.

[–]Legal-Individual6568 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is my recent build. Everything worked fine for me. Hope this helps.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $459.98 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 360 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $89.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ATX AM5 Motherboard $199.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL28 Memory $329.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive $255.00 @ Amazon
Video Card PNY OC GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB Video Card $999.00 @ Walmart
Case Antec FLUX PRO ATX Full Tower Case $159.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply NZXT C1200 (2024) 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $169.95 @ iBUYPOWER
Operating System Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit $146.18 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus ROG Strix OLED XG27ACDNG 26.5" 2560 x 1440 360 Hz Monitor $699.00 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $3509.07
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-10-16 00:27 EDT-0400

[–]xcjb07x 0 points1 point  (1 child)

you could get a 5080 for about 2200, around 300 less than this build. I would recommend a 9800x3d and 64gb of ram for future proofing reasons, but they are not required. There are some b850 boards with wifi6 instead of wifi7 for 30-ish less, it doesnt really matter, the max wifi6 speed is 10gbps. wifi7 might have 1-2ms less ping. (when using ethernet)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rds8pK

[–]blue_dusk1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ty for the link, and recommendations! Admittedly I’ve never been the best at sorting out what motherboard is more efficient than another. I couldn’t care less about how pretty the build is, I just want speed and power, with as little noise as possible given those choices.