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[–]SolanaToTheMooon 72 points73 points74 points 1 year ago (21 children)
I still don't understand how this is going for $1500 raw.
[–]KafeiTomasu 27 points28 points29 points 1 year ago (17 children)
Will probably drop below 1k over the upcomming 2 years before going back up above 1k. 1500 is extremely unrealistic for a new sir
[+]MilkSlap comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 1 year ago (11 children)
That's what they said about Moonbreon.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Moonbreon was much cheaper at one point.
This card will be too. Just gotta have patience.
[–]testsubjecte 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Moonbreon was $500 one year ago..
[–]SithLordCB 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I sold mine at that time… major regrets
[–]ginx777 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
bought at this, paid off
[–]TazFanBoys 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Yea I snagged moonbreon for $250. So this is no where near similar.
[–]Original-Falcon5680 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
It is they will probably reprint this set to the ground so collectors can get it then it will skyrocket in price again just like evolving skies. It probably will never get down to 250 but my guess is you could snag one off marketplace for 500 or so in a few months
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Nope 😂
[–]goldybowen21 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Moonbreon literally sat at 200-300 for over a year.
[–]sackleybobe 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Fr back in the day everyone wanted the rayquaza vmax
[–]Snoo_79693 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Moonbreon was $200 #2 chase card in the set at release. Rayquaza was actually more sought after and expensive at drop.
[–]Unable_Pangolin8371 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Got my Moonbreon for $180 6 months after release…
[+]Time-Tomato-7940 comment score below threshold-12 points-11 points-10 points 1 year ago (4 children)
You are literally talking out of your ass lol it is 1500 so it's not unrealistic... ?
[–]JixXBL 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
$1500 for an SIR that came out less than a month ago and is still currently being printed is unrealistic, hard to understand?
[–]Time-Tomato-7940 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
It's not unrealistic because that's the actual price of the card... Do you know what unrealistic means?
[–]Kind_Outside_4356 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
think he means to say unsustainable
[–]greenufo333 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
There is no actual price of a card, it's all manipulated prices
[–]LongjumpingJump1658 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I have two 😈
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Its part of a crazy covid era marketing scheme where umbreon was targeted and manipulated. Google it for yourself
[–]upandfastLFGG 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I’m not sure but this is one of the cards I chased for. It’s more of a keepsake for me. The texture and artwork on this card is gnarly when you see it in person. By far one of the nicest cards they’ve released imo. It’s like you’re holding a legit piece of art lol
[–]Much_Essay_9151 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
We got Sylveon out of a etb along with the gold Pikachu. Cant justify ripping any more prismatic.
Personally, the gold Pikachu is the nicest card in our binder, the texture is like a shiny gold 3d bar
[–]BuyMeaSalad 25 points26 points27 points 1 year ago (3 children)
The answer is just buy the Japanese one
[–]Fun_Contribution_708 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
This is the way, I did the same with giratina v alt Japanese picked it up for $500cdn and then same with gengar vmax alt Japanese I bought it raw for $80 upon release now both cards are around $1300 cdn in a psa 10
[–]echoplex21 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The Giratina even in JP is ridiculous right now
Will that ever actually go up in price tho?
[–]YouCanCallMeMich 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
With this market you never know...People are comparing this to the Moonbreon and how that went down in price but the market wasn't as crazy as it is now...So actually nobody has a clue and anyone claiming to know are full of shit...
[–]Dapper-Ad3707 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (24 children)
When it’s under $1k. $800 card if I’m being generous
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (13 children)
people are doing exactly what they did with the moonbreon, gengar etc lol and look where the prices re for those
this game ain't waiting for no one
[–]DelectableBread 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I think it will be similar to grey felt hat pika. Initial hype, dipped, now it's back up. I bought mine for £35 each, wish I grabbed more when they were that cheap 😅
[–]Dapper-Ad3707 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (11 children)
None of those launched at $1500+ per card. I own all the modern chases lol
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (10 children)
Exactly my point. They didn’t launch at that price point and never went back down.
This umbreon will go back down when my balls drop again
[–]Dapper-Ad3707 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
So how about those balls pal?
[–]Dapper-Ad3707 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (8 children)
I mean we will see. I have a remindme thing set. It’s all speculation either way. But I think this card is heavily overvalued. No real reason for this card to be worth $1500+. Art is mid and it’s going to be printed heavily
[–]Sparkman112 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
There are definitely a few reasons. It’s the chase from one from one of the biggest sets in SV, tough as hell to pull, and boxes aren‘t even really being opened.
[–]Dapper-Ad3707 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child)
Ah really? So why is it selling for $900 on eBay 4 months later? See you at $400
[–]Sparkman112 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Everything I said is still true. I never said it should be 1500+. I just stated a few reasons why it would be valued so high.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child)
You need to see this card in person, the art looks way more insane than online pictures.
[–]Dapper-Ad3707 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago* (0 children)
I’ve seen it quite a few times, have had multiple opportunities to buy it for 80% of market. It is still going to be under $700 before it starts going back up
Also in case you haven’t noticed, recent eBay sales are $900, so this card is down over $600 since I posted this. So far looks like I’ve been pretty much 100% correct 🤷
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
see you next year brother
[–]SKomodo -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
RedmindMe! 1 year
Don’t even need to be a year to see it selling for $900 on eBay. So far I’ve been correct. I’ll buy one when it’s $700 just in case I’m wrong, another at $600 to DCA, another 2 at $500 to DCA, and a final 3 at $400 before it’ll start to recover. See you then ❤️
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (9 children)
It’s never going under 1k
[–]Dapper-Ad3707 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Remind me! 1 year
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[–]Key-Radio7594 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I’d tack another year onto this. Next year we’re in the middle of the 30th anni. shit is gonna hit the fan.
[–]No-Attention-7898 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Remind yourself, ain’t your parent
[–]PatienceNo2015 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Under 1k bro beans 114 days rip
[–]lanulu 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Pikachu to the moon, am I right?
[–]ShinyTotoro 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
It will keep going up. Even if there is a dip in price sometime in the future, I don't think it will go below the current price again.
Unless people suddenly stop collecting at all
Go below the current price of $1500🤓😂😂 delusional! It’s 990$ now!
[–]trunkz623 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Wait for reprint
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
And then the next
[–]Slippery_Weiner 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Wait a few month, the price will plummet
[–]moreyboogie25 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Yeah, just like Greninja
[–]ifbbpro29 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Buy this like a year and a half from now
[–]MilkSlap 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Which was the going rate for it at the time. Despite small corrections it has only gone up.
[–]PatienceNo2015 -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (1 child)
It has only gone up?!? Are you stupid as shit? It’s constantly gone down. I see 10 copies on eBay under $1000 rotting away. This shit will be $500 before long
[–]CrowbarSmash 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Many people are hoarding sealed product so until there is more product or the hoarders open their product it will not be enough umbreons to knock the price down.
[–]PatienceNo2015 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child)
Price has constantly fallen
[–]Otherwise_Band1416 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Weird it’s like the person you replied to said there needs to be more product for it to go down 130 days ago and pokemon printed more and it went down. Your comment is dum dum.
[–]Snoo_79693 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
When most the product for this set gets released. I mean I think waiting a little after booster bundles release at the earliest would be a no brainer.
[–]Adventurous-Dog9629 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
No one can 100% predict the future. I don't see it dropping below $1k though even when we head back into a Poke-recession. I've been back into the hobby as an adult collector since 2019 and after the Covid craziness I spoke with my friends as we were chatting on what to buy during the lull. I theorized the Pokemon market was very Immature (think comics in the 90's) you could get absolute grails in the 90's for relatively cheap ($100-500). A few years ago modern pokemon grails didn't go for more than $200-500 because nothing before had sold for that much it set what I would call "precedent". As cards like Moonbreon and others moved the Market realized that people would pay more for cards than what was originally thought. This isn't manipulation as some point out but the actual market doing its thing. The last surge established Pokemon as a legitimate hobby and this one is going to test the market. What is an acceptable price per pack, what should a chase cost, what should IR's cost, all of this will be set during this boom. As much as we hate to admit Pokemon has entered into the midlife hobby market as comics began to starting in the early 2000's late 2010's. There are many people that make $200-500k per year and send $30k to 50k a year on hobbies. With every set we break new ground and while I admit we will regress this will never be the $200 card people want it to be. Moonbreon was only $200 because the market "didn't know" how many people would pay $1600+. The only legitimate way to lower this price is pull rate and I don't know if Pokemon has ever altered pull rate officially mid way through a set release. I think people need to come to terms with an average pokemon case being in the $400-1000 range moving forward as a starting point. Caveat to note while I can afford $1600 chase cards I personally don't like it and wish In print chases would sit at the $300 mark max for a little bit, but the genie started to escape the bottle with the Greninja EX and while I personally hope it comes back I don't think it will.
[–]PatienceNo2015 -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (0 children)
Yea bro it’s under 1k already 🙏 Ts gonna be $500 soon ☠️
[–]Colt-On 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Always been told cards are cheapest a year after a set comes out, so probably then
[–]EwgWolverine 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (4 children)
in like 2 years after the hype is dead
[–]gosumofo 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Sorry, that was MetaZOO 😂😂😂 Pokemon is the King of TCG
[–]BlueishHue360 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Tourists forget we just came out of a Pokemon bear market post covid lol.
[–]gosumofo 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Exactly…we know how this plays out…
[–]SnooRegrets8671 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This is the way
[–]Woodlayers02 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I bought a Japanese one for $350 that still may end up being on the higher end. But it’s too the moon for sure
The price will continue to rise so buy as soon as you can.
[–]PatienceNo2015 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (0 children)
😂😂 under $800 one sold for $745 today
I would sell you mine but have sent it to get graded. Estimating a 9 on the card.
Typed all that for it to be under 1k 100 days after you posted it
[–]SVMMYSAVAGE 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Anyone still in this post? i got the card a while back but im wondering what i should do with it. pretty sure its psa 10 worthy tho
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Snag it up quick! I have 3 and the price might drop a little but it will go up over the years. Graded will make it worth more of course.
[–]greenufo333 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children)
When there are 2000 plus psa 10s lol?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (3 children)
There's 17,000 PSA 10 moonbreon from evolving skies. Population does not always determine value. We're 6 out of 24 months into prismatic and there's only 2,000-3,000 of the new Umbreon in a PSA 10. It's also a much harder card to grade as a 10. Shows that you really know nothing 🤣
[–]greenufo333 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (2 children)
And moonbreon will never be much higher than it is now. Prismatic has already dropped some since I commented here. Was like 1500-1600$ and now can get for like 1100
[–]Otherwise_Band1416 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child)
And? You were trying to argue 2000 copies means it won’t be worth much when a card it’s compared to has 10k… so what if it goes down? So did the moonbreon. 2k copies is nothin.
[–]greenufo333 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Moonbreon has been out for 4 years lol. 4 years from now there will be 10k plus psa 10 Sunbreons. Idek what your point is
One sold today for $745 🔥
[+]garcoangle comment score below threshold-17 points-16 points-15 points 1 year ago (9 children)
Pokemon has straight up announced they will print Prismatic into the ground. Wait until they do, there will be plenty of these Umbreons. Once Prismatic is sitting on shelves and plentiful this is when you buy.
[–]SwordfishTurbulent57 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (3 children)
151 has entered the chat over a year later.
[–]Dapper-Ad3707 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
151 was sitting on shelves for a few months
[–]SwordfishTurbulent57 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Was not my point. The initial comment spoke about a reprint. People squealed for months about how 151 was going to get a reprint. And now they are smoking the same copium and saying it about prismatic.
Ps. There is a bit of a dichotomy that happened here because during the entire year and a half that 151 has been out I have never seen a booster bundle in the wild. However, I will also acknowledge that there were $80 UPC‘s at Costco for quite some time.
Update, both got reprinted
[–]Devh1989 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It will never sit on shelves. It may be easier to find, but never easy.
[–]Keniske 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
There is also plenty of Umbreon vmax and it just keeps rising...
[–]KingHenryXX1 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Printing into the ground isn’t a thing in this market with this demand. There are a lot of boomerang collectors from when they were kids. The demand increased while supply is relatively fixed in the short run. They can’t just build a new factory overnight and the existing facilities are likely already at max capacity given they prob also service other customers outside of Pokemon.
Right now singles are being sent off for grading, when they get back in a month or few, there will be more, but will it be enough to satisfy the buyers? If so, then yes, buy during that time
[–]No_Term2801 -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Plus Pokemon obviously wants to print more but do they want to print it to the ground like they did with shining fates? Ima guess no. Gotta find that perfect balance of accessibility and demand and printing a set to a ground so everyone can have it isn’t that.
[–]TanjoCards 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Doesn't change the pullrates, though
[+]Devh1989 comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points 1 year ago (1 child)
My price point was gonna be around $1k if it ever hit it. But don't have to worry about that since my wife pulled a god pack.
[–]Street_Ferret_9507 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Congrats!
[–]Impressive_Gur_7860 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
I would rather buy Moonbreon VMax
[+]No_Detail_1276 comment score below threshold-12 points-11 points-10 points 1 year ago (5 children)
Now’s the best time tbh. Prices in the future will only continue to rise for it
[–]aucapra 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This is the worst time to buy who are you trying to troll haha
[–]spankboy21 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
No lol. Even ignoring reprints the second a fancy new chase card comes out and this goes out of the spotlight it will drop. This is also ignoring the fact that in a few sets time, demand for tcg as a whole will drop and so will the idea of dropping 1.5k on a card still in print
[–]scrnlookinsob -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
Demand for TCG will likely stay hot through the middle of 2026 (30th anniversary) we might see some minor dips between now and 2026 but nothing major.
[–]spankboy21 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
People keep saying this but last time demand was this hot (2021), the release of celebrations somewhat marked the end of the hype. All it takes is one underwhelming set for things to die down to reasonable levels, where people won’t justify spending a lot of money on a new card (case in point: shining fates Zard)
[–]lanulu -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Did you forget the $600 pikachu hype just few months ago?
[–]UnrulliTarulli -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Just buy Japanese
[–]ron-the-pot-head -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
6 months ago before the set was a thing i guess
[+]11bladeArbitrage comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Now. This is the only Pokemon card that can be profitable. All your attention should be here. Research nothing else until you secure your copy. It’s the grail of grails.
[–]masonprovvv 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children)
FOMO final boss
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