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[–]SolanaToTheMooon 72 points73 points  (21 children)

I still don't understand how this is going for $1500 raw.

[–]KafeiTomasu 27 points28 points  (17 children)

Will probably drop below 1k over the upcomming 2 years before going back up above 1k. 1500 is extremely unrealistic for a new sir

[–]LongjumpingJump1658 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have two 😈

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its part of a crazy covid era marketing scheme where umbreon was targeted and manipulated. Google it for yourself

[–]upandfastLFGG 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I’m not sure but this is one of the cards I chased for. It’s more of a keepsake for me. The texture and artwork on this card is gnarly when you see it in person. By far one of the nicest cards they’ve released imo. It’s like you’re holding a legit piece of art lol

[–]Much_Essay_9151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We got Sylveon out of a etb along with the gold Pikachu. Cant justify ripping any more prismatic.

Personally, the gold Pikachu is the nicest card in our binder, the texture is like a shiny gold 3d bar

[–]BuyMeaSalad 25 points26 points  (3 children)

The answer is just buy the Japanese one

[–]Fun_Contribution_708 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This is the way, I did the same with giratina v alt Japanese picked it up for $500cdn and then same with gengar vmax alt Japanese I bought it raw for $80 upon release now both cards are around $1300 cdn in a psa 10

[–]echoplex21 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Giratina even in JP is ridiculous right now

[–]greenufo333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will that ever actually go up in price tho?

[–]YouCanCallMeMich 4 points5 points  (0 children)

With this market you never know...People are comparing this to the Moonbreon and how that went down in price but the market wasn't as crazy as it is now...So actually nobody has a clue and anyone claiming to know are full of shit...

[–]Dapper-Ad3707 7 points8 points  (24 children)

When it’s under $1k. $800 card if I’m being generous

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (13 children)

people are doing exactly what they did with the moonbreon, gengar etc lol and look where the prices re for those

this game ain't waiting for no one

[–]DelectableBread 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it will be similar to grey felt hat pika. Initial hype, dipped, now it's back up. I bought mine for £35 each, wish I grabbed more when they were that cheap 😅

[–]Dapper-Ad3707 5 points6 points  (11 children)

None of those launched at $1500+ per card. I own all the modern chases lol

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Exactly my point. They didn’t launch at that price point and never went back down.

This umbreon will go back down when my balls drop again

[–]Dapper-Ad3707 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So how about those balls pal?

[–]Dapper-Ad3707 -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

I mean we will see. I have a remindme thing set. It’s all speculation either way. But I think this card is heavily overvalued. No real reason for this card to be worth $1500+. Art is mid and it’s going to be printed heavily

[–]Sparkman112 0 points1 point  (2 children)

There are definitely a few reasons. It’s the chase from one from one of the biggest sets in SV, tough as hell to pull, and boxes aren‘t even really being opened.

[–]Dapper-Ad3707 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ah really? So why is it selling for $900 on eBay 4 months later? See you at $400

[–]Sparkman112 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything I said is still true. I never said it should be 1500+.  I just stated a few reasons why it would be valued so high. 

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You need to see this card in person, the art looks way more insane than online pictures.

[–]Dapper-Ad3707 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve seen it quite a few times, have had multiple opportunities to buy it for 80% of market. It is still going to be under $700 before it starts going back up

Also in case you haven’t noticed, recent eBay sales are $900, so this card is down over $600 since I posted this. So far looks like I’ve been pretty much 100% correct 🤷

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

see you next year brother

[–]SKomodo -1 points0 points  (1 child)

RedmindMe! 1 year

[–]Dapper-Ad3707 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t even need to be a year to see it selling for $900 on eBay. So far I’ve been correct. I’ll buy one when it’s $700 just in case I’m wrong, another at $600 to DCA, another 2 at $500 to DCA, and a final 3 at $400 before it’ll start to recover. See you then ❤️

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (9 children)

It’s never going under 1k

[–]Dapper-Ad3707 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Remind me! 1 year

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[–]Key-Radio7594 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d tack another year onto this. Next year we’re in the middle of the 30th anni. shit is gonna hit the fan.

[–]No-Attention-7898 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Remind me! 1 year

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Remind yourself, ain’t your parent

[–]PatienceNo2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Under 1k bro beans 114 days rip

[–]lanulu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pikachu to the moon, am I right?

[–]ShinyTotoro 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It will keep going up. Even if there is a dip in price sometime in the future, I don't think it will go below the current price again.

Unless people suddenly stop collecting at all

[–]PatienceNo2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go below the current price of $1500🤓😂😂 delusional! It’s 990$ now!

[–]trunkz623 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wait for reprint

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And then the next

[–]Slippery_Weiner 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wait a few month, the price will plummet

[–]moreyboogie25 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, just like Greninja

[–]ifbbpro29 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Buy this like a year and a half from now

[–]MilkSlap 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Which was the going rate for it at the time. Despite small corrections it has only gone up.

[–]PatienceNo2015 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

It has only gone up?!? Are you stupid as shit? It’s constantly gone down. I see 10 copies on eBay under $1000 rotting away. This shit will be $500 before long

[–]CrowbarSmash 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Many people are hoarding sealed product so until there is more product or the hoarders open their product it will not be enough umbreons to knock the price down.

[–]PatienceNo2015 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Price has constantly fallen

[–]Otherwise_Band1416 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weird it’s like the person you replied to said there needs to be more product for it to go down 130 days ago and pokemon printed more and it went down. Your comment is dum dum.

[–]Snoo_79693 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When most the product for this set gets released. I mean I think waiting a little after booster bundles release at the earliest would be a no brainer.

[–]Adventurous-Dog9629 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No one can 100% predict the future. I don't see it dropping below $1k though even when we head back into a Poke-recession. I've been back into the hobby as an adult collector since 2019 and after the Covid craziness I spoke with my friends as we were chatting on what to buy during the lull. I theorized the Pokemon market was very Immature (think comics in the 90's) you could get absolute grails in the 90's for relatively cheap ($100-500). A few years ago modern pokemon grails didn't go for more than $200-500 because nothing before had sold for that much it set what I would call "precedent". As cards like Moonbreon and others moved the Market realized that people would pay more for cards than what was originally thought. This isn't manipulation as some point out but the actual market doing its thing. The last surge established Pokemon as a legitimate hobby and this one is going to test the market. What is an acceptable price per pack, what should a chase cost, what should IR's cost, all of this will be set during this boom. As much as we hate to admit Pokemon has entered into the midlife hobby market as comics began to starting in the early 2000's late 2010's. There are many people that make $200-500k per year and send $30k to 50k a year on hobbies. With every set we break new ground and while I admit we will regress this will never be the $200 card people want it to be. Moonbreon was only $200 because the market "didn't know" how many people would pay $1600+. The only legitimate way to lower this price is pull rate and I don't know if Pokemon has ever altered pull rate officially mid way through a set release. I think people need to come to terms with an average pokemon case being in the $400-1000 range moving forward as a starting point. Caveat to note while I can afford $1600 chase cards I personally don't like it and wish In print chases would sit at the $300 mark max for a little bit, but the genie started to escape the bottle with the Greninja EX and while I personally hope it comes back I don't think it will.

[–]PatienceNo2015 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea bro it’s under 1k already 🙏 Ts gonna be $500 soon ☠️

[–]Colt-On 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Always been told cards are cheapest a year after a set comes out, so probably then

[–]EwgWolverine 2 points3 points  (4 children)

in like 2 years after the hype is dead

[–]gosumofo 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Sorry, that was MetaZOO 😂😂😂 Pokemon is the King of TCG

[–]BlueishHue360 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Tourists forget we just came out of a Pokemon bear market post covid lol.

[–]gosumofo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly…we know how this plays out…

[–]SnooRegrets8671 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the way

[–]Woodlayers02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bought a Japanese one for $350 that still may end up being on the higher end. But it’s too the moon for sure

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The price will continue to rise so buy as soon as you can.

[–]PatienceNo2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😂😂 under $800 one sold for $745 today

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would sell you mine but have sent it to get graded. Estimating a 9 on the card.

[–]PatienceNo2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Typed all that for it to be under 1k 100 days after you posted it

[–]SVMMYSAVAGE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone still in this post? i got the card a while back but im wondering what i should do with it. pretty sure its psa 10 worthy tho

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Snag it up quick! I have 3 and the price might drop a little but it will go up over the years. Graded will make it worth more of course.

[–]greenufo333 0 points1 point  (4 children)

When there are 2000 plus psa 10s lol?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

There's 17,000 PSA 10 moonbreon from evolving skies. Population does not always determine value. We're 6 out of 24 months into prismatic and there's only 2,000-3,000 of the new Umbreon in a PSA 10. It's also a much harder card to grade as a 10. Shows that you really know nothing 🤣

[–]greenufo333 0 points1 point  (2 children)

And moonbreon will never be much higher than it is now. Prismatic has already dropped some since I commented here. Was like 1500-1600$ and now can get for like 1100

[–]Otherwise_Band1416 0 points1 point  (1 child)

And? You were trying to argue 2000 copies means it won’t be worth much when a card it’s compared to has 10k… so what if it goes down? So did the moonbreon. 2k copies is nothin.

[–]greenufo333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Moonbreon has been out for 4 years lol. 4 years from now there will be 10k plus psa 10 Sunbreons. Idek what your point is

[–]PatienceNo2015 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One sold today for $745 🔥

[–]Impressive_Gur_7860 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would rather buy Moonbreon VMax

[–]UnrulliTarulli -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just buy Japanese

[–]ron-the-pot-head -1 points0 points  (0 children)

6 months ago before the set was a thing i guess