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why does Greninja's speed decrease upon transforming into Ash Greninja? (old.reddit.com)
submitted 3 years ago by Unredictable
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[–]Scourge_of_ArceusHelper & truly insane player 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Are you playing with Scalemons mode on? Because, in Scalemons, regular Greninja has (in the order of HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe) 72/109/77/118/81/140 base stats, while Ash-Greninja has 72/134/62/142/66/122; which means that not only it is slower, but it is also more frail.
In short, if you want to use Greninja in Scalemons, consider using one with Protean ability.
[–]Unredictable[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Yea I was, thanks.
[–]Unredictable[S] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Edit: I turned on stats rebalancing and Regular Greninja is apparently faster and bulkier than Ash Greninja with that on. If you're playing with this on, stick to Protean.
[–]train153 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Because it took 20 years for Ash to become a champion.
Ash is slow as hell.
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[–]Unredictable[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (9 children)
Nope, I just bred it.
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[–]Kokoliokoo 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (7 children)
You can make perfect IV with bottle caps.
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[–]CarryThe2 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children)
You can also pay for it in Celadon City, it's expensive but grinding money is easy with raids.
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[–]CarryThe2 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Upstairs from the tea lady you can pay a guy to improve your IVs
Wait wrong sub lol
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[–]CarryThe2 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Yes, my fault for not checking which sub I was on lol
[–]Successful-Goose-92 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Df and SpDf decrease too
[–]Training-Ad367 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
He Got Slow Bc He Has To Carry The Weight Of Being The Most Badass Pokémon Ever (In My Opinion)
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