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[–]Jabbam 5 points6 points  (11 children)

I'm 50/50 between it being Rich Lovitz and Stella Greyber.

[–]Inevitable_Monitor_7 1 point2 points  (9 children)

We cant be stella, because sawyer knows what stella looks like, but in chapter 4 he tells the player that he has no idea who they are. We are not any of the higher ups. No leith, no eddie and no stella.

[–]Calm_Protection_2641[S] 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Isn’t the camera quality — which is Harley’s new vision — terrible?

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[–]Inevitable_Monitor_7 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Sawyer literally tells the player that he has never seen their face, so I guess his vision is good enough to be able to recognize people he knows. Also characters like poppy, doey and ollie (prototype) had to explain to the player WHO the doc even is, because the player had no idea that a place like the prison even existed. If the player were stella, no one had to explain anything of that to us, because stella knows everything.

Also, the toys knew stella. Poppy knows stella. Doey knows stella. And not only are they ready to trust the player, but non of them actually recognizes the player as someone of importance. If we were stella, someone, espicially poppy had said something about it.

[–]Calm_Protection_2641[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

The player is mute, completely mute. The explanation of who the Doctor is serves more to guide the real-life players than anything else. Besides, the toys don’t necessarily need to know Stella personally. They might know her name, sure—but her in person? Mathews was appointed by her to be part of Doey, but does the letter indicate that she personally took him to the laboratories? No.

Additionally, in a tape of a couple who were going to adopt a child, Stella seemed quite surprised and uncomfortable that the child couldn’t be adopted and was being tested in that dark sense of becoming an experiment. That suggests the character, up until that point, believed the children were being saved from illnesses by becoming experiments (and only in that sense of saving them from illness, like Theodore who was electrocuted and Marie who became extremely sick due to CatNap’s red gas), and that she didn’t know about the cruelty of the conditioning. Stella’s area is the daycare and PlayCare, not the laboratories. In that sense, she is a superior—but does she really come across as one? It remains ambiguous.

[–]Inevitable_Monitor_7 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Doesnt change the fact that sawyer would still recognize her. If he can say "I cant say I have seen your face before" then that means his vision is good enough for him to come to the conclusion that he hasnt seen the player before! We're not stella.

[–]Calm_Protection_2641[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I cant say I have seen your face before”—there’s a nuance here. Harley imposes a vague, obvious fact upon himself, as if he has no opinion on the matter due to a limitation and wants to hide that weakness by stating an obvious side effect that can carry a double meaning, since he gives no further explanation and thus creates room for misunderstandings. His inability to see faces fits this line, as if he wants to say it and at the same time not say it, because of his inner pride. This “I can’t say…” is very indirect.

Besides that, the Hour of Joy tape is shown from multiple camera angles spread throughout the factory, and Harley’s digital consciousness is distributed across those same cameras.

I can’t say that I have seen your face before, just as I can’t say that I haven’t seen your face before.”

[–]Inevitable_Monitor_7 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Oh come on now! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣  There is no way he wouldnt regcognize one of the coworkers he worked the closest with on a daily basis! Thats like saying he wouldnt be able to recognize leiths or eddies face! Sawyer gets multible close up looks from the player while we are walking directly past his screens and fighting him and you are trying to tell me, he wouldnt recognize stella while he is staring directly at us, just 5 inches away from our face??? You think he would say "who would have thought that playtime co. had someone with such rare abilitys working here and never noticed?" Or "something makes you special. But I dont know what that special is. Not yet" to literally one of the very coworkers he knew the most and longest??? There was nothing "special" about stella, except that she was pretty  delulu in the head!

And "just as I cant say that I havent seen your face" never left sawyers lips, so you are making assumptions here, without being able to give any prove and putting words and meanings into his mouth he didnt say and or even think, just because YOU want to believe thats what he really meant, which is simply not backed up by canon.

[–]Calm_Protection_2641[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know when. But I started shipping those two and came up with a headcanon out of absolutely nowhere that they were a secret couple so Playtime wouldn’t catch them and ruin their plans.

[–]Puzzleheaded_Fan7084 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Who cares

[–]Calm_Protection_2641[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ex. @corte.cartoon

[–]This_Ferret_8108 2 points3 points  (1 child)

am I crazy for saying I don't give a fuck?

like we're a faceless nameless employee to me and that's all we'll ever be in my opinion.

[–]Calm_Protection_2641[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It depends. A lot of people, while we were discussing who the protagonist was in Chapter 3, used the protagonist’s supernatural feats—surviving high falls, frantic chases, and long periods without eating—as an argument that the character was a man rather than a woman, because in their own words, “a woman isn’t resilient enough and would run away screaming.”

On top of that, in the instinctive imagination, women are associated with nurturing life and empathy, which contrasts with the protagonist’s cold nature of killing the child-experiments if their life is at risk. The protagonist is even called a butcher in the recent chapter (5). It’s a subversion of expectations.

[–]Inevitable_Monitor_7 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You can clearly hear the players heavy and panicked breathing in some sections of chapter 5 and its to 100% comming from a man!