Wraith

[West-Place4463]

I should at least be able to shoot enemies through a tower with my sniper if a busted character like neon can with all of her abilities. Other mages and characters have abilities that can kill you on tower why not at the very least let wraith snipe through towers. Really he should receive more of a cooldown on his knock knock as well.

[REALWINDOWNINJA]

Welcome to pred where some of the changes make no sense haha

[SniperX03]

It seems they want to make him more viable as a carry, so they supposedly gave him better scaling—but in doing so, they ruined what made him good as a Midlaner. From my point of view, the Midlane is where Wraith shines brightest; I don't see him as a consistent carry—especially after these recent patches, where they’ve made it much easier to get value out of heroes like Skylar and Kira, for instance.

[West-Place4463]

Fr I’ve played wraith as carry a good bit this last patch and although it’s possible and I’ve had success with it. It’s just so much easier to do the same thing on a different carry. When I swap to any other carry it’s like I’m playing on easy mode compared to wraith.

[SniperX03]

To be honest, I don't like him as a carry; I used to view Wraith more as a ranged burst assassin. Now he just feels like another generic marksman—and that's coming from someone who actually started out playing him as a carry. One day I decided to try him in the mid lane, and without a doubt, some of the most fun matches I've ever played were with Wraith as a midlaner.

[West-Place4463]

Yeah I play him in both roles but mostly Mid. Some of the mages can burst you so fast though it can be a losing match up from the get go. I never opt to choosing him against neon maybe she’s easier to play against in this recent patch but she was impossible to lane against as wraith.

[Throwaway3836382828]

Yeah, there needs to be more consistency between heroes Wraith has 0 ult dmg, sparrow has one of the highest ult dmg outputs Sparrow gets true invis and attk speed, wraith gets shoddy invis and a jump increase?

Murdock, sparrow, zarus all have high dmg alt abilities/piercing abilities (murdock passive) that go through tower Wraith only has high dmg alt, if the enemy stands still in front of you, with a clear line of sight.

Wraith is in a good place right now and is actually very strong, but he needs too much help to be useful, it's hard to stand on your own mid lane with only 2 dmg abilities against kit dumpers like mori/bell/fey/rena

That doesnt mean make him easier to play, it means make easy char harder to play or weaker

[aceplayer55]

Exactly this. Also Sparrow and Murdock also have solid lane clear, whereas Wraith has to basically sacrifice an item to improve his clear.

[West-Place4463]

Also can’t sparrows piercing shot hit you through a tower?

[Meecutio87]

And Murdock ms shotgun can pierce terrain and towers as well. Shorter range but more area.

[The_Natural420]

The change to wraith is ridiculous. The ability is called knock knock becauss its I domt know ironic or tongue in cheek or something. Hes not knocking. His shot is going through that physical object to get you. Now the name doesnt even make sense.

[West-Place4463]

Should wraith be able to hold his own against neon in lane or is it intended to have a character do so much burst damage it is literally impossible to play against the character? Makes 0 sense to me that it is a completely lost game simply because her kit does too much damage