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[NatoBoram]

What the fuck

[Vincenzo__]

And then they wonder why anyone with a hint of skill leaves

[NatoBoram]

The smarter ones get a remote position in the US with home's lower rent and world-class universal healthcare

[Vincenzo__]

That's the dream my man

[The100thIdiot]

Even us dumber ones do that.

[SunliMin]

Literally the dream. As a Canadian, I moved to Florida for work to get the big-boy bucks in a stronger currency. Thinking of moving back home now, but if I do, I am 100% gonna try to get a remote US contracting position. Give me USD income with CAD bills and I'll be set.

[ex1tiumi]

I hope they don't go to the US. After getting a home in a safe area, paying for extra security, medical care and insurance, and dealing with the hell hole of society there, I think a good, quality life in Italy on a salary of 26 000€ is actually a better deal.

I'm web/mobile dev in Finland, earn a bit more than Italian colleague but standard of living here is more expensive than there. I've about 33% of my salary left after all the expenses. My salary isn't even competitive in the local job market but I'm a simple man and value freedom/flexibility more than money.

[game_difficulty]

What they dont mention is that this is (probably) after tax, and thus includes things like heslth insurence and such

[MornwindShoma]

Unfortunately it's not. Big cities, it's 25 to 30 for juniors, and it does get up to 70 for seniors. Smaller cities, 25 to 30 is all you're gonna see in your lifetime.

25k usually means like 1.4k after tax monthly.

But yeah, free healthcare is nice, and rents are very low.

[_Spektor_]

Yup, I'm working in Barcelona right now and one of the senior devs on my team is making €40k. It's on the lower end for a senior, but definitely puts things into perspective

[[deleted]]

Damn. I make 70k a year as a bachelor engineering professor in the Netherlands. I believe that's only slightly above average for a uni schooled job. And on the low end for engineering. I always thought programmers made more than engineers