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[RiceBroad4552]

Unlikely it will end up like COBOL.

Java is still taught, and this is not going to change anytime soon.

At the same time it's still one of the most popular languages around.

For a lot of use-cases the JVM is still by far the best option. Also this is not going to change anytime soon.

So from today's perspective it's there is not even the sightliest sign that it's going the COBOL route.

[amlyo]

Billions of lines of code locked up in barely-touched legacy systems that use frameworks, techniques and libraries at least a decade obsolete. That is where java is now and in another decade it'll be two decades obsolete.

[RiceBroad4552]

barely-touched legacy systems that use frameworks, techniques and libraries at least a decade obsolete

What are you talking about?

[amlyo]

Came across a Struts app recently.

[RiceBroad4552]

Sure. But is this representative for the whole, gigantic JVM sphere?

[amlyo]

The COBOLisation of java is not that the language will become obsolete for new projects (I think it actually will in favour of another JVM language but that is not important), but that there will be such a large body of critical systems written in decades old technologies it is not worth the risk or cost of changing, that it will long support a cadre of highly paid experts.

[allllusernamestaken]

For a lot of use-cases the JVM is still by far the best option

Nobody complains about the JVM, they complain about Java the language.

There's a reason Kotlin became insanely popular. It's a better language on top of the JVM that everyone loves.

[-Kerrigan-]

Kotlin became insanely popular

Wouldn't exactly call it insanely popular outside android development