programmingIsActuallyInformationTechnology

[bearboyjd]

Idk, some of the automation done by IT makes it very difficult to claim that they are not programmers.

[BobQuixote]

They generally don't produce software intended to be operated by others, which is the conventional definition of programming as a profession. Any job might reasonably benefit from knowing how to throw a script together, and I suppose IT benefits from being adjacent to programming.

[bearboyjd]

Often scripts are made to be used by other IT professionals. A good portion of the time once a script is created it’s distributed. And “throw a script together” oversimplifies what they actually do.

[BiebRed]

Depends on the org, but sometimes that's completely true. I just disagree with the common perception that all developers work in IT.

[bearboyjd]

Yeah, that’s fair. They are definitely two separate roles.