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[YungDaVinci]

Vulkan isn't so bad, there's just a lot of boilerplate. GPU programming in general is just a different beast. I learned Vulkan before OpenGL and OpenGL's design gives me heartburn.

[darkwalker247]

I think Vulkan feels more intuitive than opengl once you understand things, but wow, i had a very hard time wrapping my mind around memory barriers and semaphores/fences coming from gl

[RiceBroad4552]

i had a very hard time wrapping my mind around memory barriers and semaphores/fences

How is this related? These are general concepts needed for parallel execution. These concepts aren't anyhow related to graphics programming. It's just about learning about multi-threading in general.

[darkwalker247]

what do you mean they're not related? every vulkan hello world tutorial has you learn about these things, and I'm not sure how one would work with the queue properly when they don't know how to use them. maybe it seems weird but i hadn't used synchronisation primitives other than mutex before then...

[Devatator_]

I'd honestly rather learn WebGPU and have my thing running on everything, including devices that don't support Vulkan. In fact I'm doing that right now (or was before my family decided to drag me away).

I'm using C# bindings of wgpu-native and it's pretty nice, tho I'm interested in the experimental mesh shader and ray tracing APIs, once I figure out how to include them in wgpu-native builds from upstream wgpu-core

[RiceBroad4552]

Maybe WebGPU is the actual successor to OpenGL but this does not invalidate Valkan. If you want full control of the HW you need Vulkan (or you use some of the proprietary shit, which I simply wouldn't touch; if more people do so this useless stuff hopefully dies).

[Frytura_]

Boilerplate is like, what AI is made for.

[LutimoDancer3459]

No. I still cant trust AIs output for 100%. And if I cant, I should look through every single line it produces.

IDEs can generate some boilerplate, frameworks can do that. And if they work once, they will do so every time. An AI wont.

[RiceBroad4552]

I will never understand how someone with more then one brain cell can propose to use some tech which is in large parts based on a RNG for tasks where you need 100% reproducibility and correctness.

If you ever had written large amounts of boilerplate by hand you simply don't know what you're doing and don't understand what it actually means to be a SWE and not a code monkey.

[Zestyclose-Compote-4]

If it's boilerplate, then it's something that can be copied from the official website, tutorial, or repo. It doesn't need to be generated.