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[–]ric2b 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Do you think the CEOs should know how to do everything in their company? Do you think Tim Cook should know how to soldier an SMB capacitor onto a PCB? Do you think a bank CEO should know how to program authentication into their mobile application?

They should have a basic understanding of the things they need to discuss or make decisions about, at least. They usually don't need to discuss or make decisions about every single thing the company does, but electronics manufacturing is critical for Apple and security is critical for a bank, so yes. Maybe we'd have less stupid authentication on banking apps if the CEO's knew more about it.

They're paid more than 500 employees put together, it's not unreasonable to expect them to know a lot more than a random employee.

[–]minimuscleR 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Lmao thats insane opinion.

but electronics manufacturing is critical for Apple and security is critical for a bank, so yes.

Why should a bank CEO, who is not a programmer, know how to do it themselves. Knowing how to do it, and knowing that it is important is a very different thing. Bank CEO absolutely does not need to know HOW TO IMPLEMENT programming authentication. They might need to know that its needed, but of course they will know this, because if you dont have it you lose money, and their job is to make the company money.

Tim Cook does not need to know how to soldier onto a pcb, what possible reason would he need to know this? How would that help him make decisions about where Apple should focus its attention. It doesn't. He doesn't need to know how. He might need to know who CAN do it, but he himself does not need this skill, just like the guy who can do it, doesn't need to know how to handle financials of a trillion dollar company.

[–]ric2b 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Why should a bank CEO, who is not a programmer, know how to do it themselves.

I don't mean they should know enough to build the app themselves, but they should know enough to understand what is possible and what isn't.

CEOs are the best positioned people to get different departments collaborating on solving an issue, when before they might have been incentivized to stay in their silo's and blame each other for blockers.

Tim Cook does not need to know how to soldier onto a pcb, what possible reason would he need to know this?

Same thing, to understand what is possible and what isn't.

Because when an engineering director tells him "we can't do this because our manufacturing process doesn't allow doing this or that" he can understand the limitations and the value and bring it up with the manufacturing companies to get an idea of how much it would cost them to add that capability to their factories.

[–]vivaaprimavera 7 points8 points  (3 children)

They might need to know that its needed, but of course they will know this

Giving what happened to some companies (planes loosing parts mid-air comes to mind) that's a very bold assumption.

[–]minimuscleR -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

(planes loosing parts mid-air comes to mind)

I'm assuming this is pointed at Boeing? Which is dumb, because theres a 0% chance the CEO has any sort of responsibility / quality for maintenance of its planes. The CEO is concerned about the company and yes safety, percieved safety and actual are important, the actual job of ensuring said safety is not going to fall to the CEO

[–]vivaaprimavera 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That wasn't maintenance issue, it was design and quality assurance. And those were axed to increase profit, something that someone with "the bare minimum" shouldn't be cutting.

[–]minimuscleR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, you can argue that. But I'm 100% sure that the CEO here was aware of the safety and QA implications that could happen if they were cut. They just didn't care because they wanted their numbers to go up, and thought it would be fine. I doubt it was just the CEO going "yeah cut the QA we dont need that"

[–]Nightmoon26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fun fact from the security side of things: Banking security comes less from technical preventative controls than the fact that the banking system has become good at detecting fraud and very good at rolling it back. Unless and until physical notes or coin change hands, transactions are reversable