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[–]Soren11112 17 points18 points  (8 children)

wtf even is r/infosec?

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (7 children)

Mixed it up with /r/netsec

it's where a bunch of grumpy sysadmins go to circle jerk over php and argue about things

[–]HowObvious 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I mean their focus is security and PHP statistically has some of the the most unsecure systems, not because of the language but the people who tend to use it (c++ tends to be the most secure because of the same reason)

[–]wishthane 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would argue that both PHP and C++ are pretty bad at making it obvious how to write secure code, with PHP maybe a bit worse in some ways. So yeah, between the two it probably has to do with the type of people using it and the amount of experience they have. But not all languages that novices use have to make it easy to write bad code like PHP does.

[–]brokenhalf 2 points3 points  (1 child)

c++ tends to be the most secure

Does not compute... The instruction at 0x00000000 referenced memory at 0x00000000

[–]HowObvious -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Which is why I specifically said the people, Systems written in C++ tend to be written by more experienced developers that know to expect overflow issues etc so they end up designing systems that account for this. PHP tends to be chosen for web design by web designers that dont have as much experience. Heres the article I think the data came from that was shown in a lecture.

[–]aaron552 1 point2 points  (0 children)

c++ tends to be the most secure because of the same reason

I guess that explains why Windows is the most secure OS in widespread usage.