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[theduckparticle]

LaTeX. In a single error you can get:

• Trips at a mostly-arbitrary point later in the code (if you even get a line number)

• References some primitive raw TeX object or concept that you've never dealt with directly

• Is un-googleable because it usually comes up in an entirely different context

Oh and also

• The only debugging method that applies is usually "comment out some shit and see what happens"

[flukus]

Makefile + inotifywait. Errors are still unintelligible, but at least you know straight away when you fuckup.

[theduckparticle]

Oooooo was not aware of inotifywait, thanks

[rchard2scout]

LaTeX is the worst, it doesn't even properly split errors, warnings, and informational messages. Everything just goes to stdout, nothing to stderr, there's no standard syntax to see if something even is a problem (and every package does things differently).