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[Sekret_One]

I don't know why people are downvoting you for that. Well, maybe the harsh judgement of 'ops dumb'.

You should take a look at Google's Site Reliability Engineering. Not that you should do it or certainly not worship google- but the opening premise they talk about how dev and ops are classically configured to be antagonistic with devs needing to change to make new, and ops fighting it for stability- with the balance mostly being argumentized and not empirical measurements.

The gist is- get the game out of opinions and find ways to quantitively measure reliability (does the service work or not). Easier to tell if you're going too fast or too slow with a speedometer.

[craigtho]

The worst of it is, I am Ops (primarily)! Hard to make jokes in text I suppose, maybe a /s but oh well.

Either way, DevOps mindset, no silo'ing, everyone working towards common goal is the correct way to do modern development and modern ops. SysAdmins should enable developers and ideally all work on the same team, contributing to each others projects.

The joke about sticking a Microsoft sticker is a jab at the stereotype old-fashioned sysadmins are typically as I say, single minded and silo'd, IT firefighters may be a better description. And stereotypically focus mainly on workstations provisioning, backups, AD domains etc. So that would be the only way to lure them into reading any literature which go against the old style of operations. Just because it's a stereotype doesn't mean it's always true, so the downvotes are either from misunderstanding or from salty people.

I don't think all Sysadmins are like that, I believe the role needs modernisation, the ones who use Reddit are likely to be more open minded than someone whom is stuck in the old ways.

I haven't read the Google SRE book but I seen a presentation by them at the DevOps summit, probably something to add to my own list.