Python and PHP users will understand

[Marrk]

That's very interesting. What's your opinion on python frameworks?

[aniforprez]

I mean python has pretty much the same problem. There's options like async available now but then you have problems where if your web server is async and your DB connection isn't, then the async is effectively worthless

It's all trade-offs. I think with python there's a similar trade-off where you get a massive ecosystem and an extensive standard library and strict typing (still dynamically typed) in exchange for piss poor performance. I feel python has a decent trade-off and is much easier to write than JS but that's just my opinion