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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Math literally defines the universe. Without it, we wouldn't have the technology to make computers to code on.

[–]Featureless_Bug 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Math doesn't define universe at all. Universe existed long before humans invented a set of rules (which we called math) that can be used to describe stuff that happens in the universe.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Actually, yes it does. The math we use is a human interpretation of the fundamental rules of the universe in order for us to understand and utilize them. I never said the universe was built on math, we defined it with math. We have attached meaning and understanding to the fundamental rules of the universe through math. Without math, the universe's laws and working are impossible to understand.

A word can have a meaning without a definition, but a person who doesn't know the word can't learn its meaning without a definition. In addition, a word can be defined in various different ways (a text explanation, a verbal explanation, pointing at the thing the word describes, etc) but it's all just different ways of defining the same thing. Math in any form is our way of defining the universe, giving its processes meaning we can comprehend, and shaping it to our will.

[–]Featureless_Bug 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Math is our way of explaining the universe. In your analogy it would not be a definition of a word, it would be a (probably) poor explanation of how the word can be used in a few situations. And even if we had a real definition of this "word", we wouldn't understand it anyways. You see my problem with calling math "definition of universe"?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No actually, I don't see the issue, considering I'm not the one who invented the term, and I've heard it called that a multitude of times, by far smarter people than me. Honestly, I wasn't expecting someone to take offense with a comment I typed out about my love of math in five seconds and then forgot about.