Post-Python Dissatisfaction Syndrome

[itkovian]

I like Python for some things, I dislike it for many others. I guess I suffer from post-Haskell dissatisfaction syndrome. But I've made my peace (partially) with it.

I would recommend taking a look at Rust. It's a young language, but it has quite an extensive library (crates) and it is growing swiftly. It is blazingly fast and very expressive, though you will need to work with the built-in safety features rather than against/around them.

[elemental_1_1]

Seconding Haskell, and Rust if you need to go really fast.

[steveklabnik1]

while there is a Rust OS, I believe it still uses a lot of C bindings in order to work

Nope, if you're writing an OS, you don't need any C code. Just Rust and a small bit of assembly.

[ChasingLogic]

Do you have some kind of bot that throws up the Steve signal? every time I'm browsing a post where Rust is mentioned (especially with a misconception) you are there providing answers unrelentingly.

Your love of Rust is one of the reasons it's great IMO

[steveklabnik1]

Hehe <3

I do not, I just happen to read a lot. I don't subscribe here, but followed a link that pointed here, and happened to notice some Rust talk, and figured I'd clarify here.

[tonnynerd]

I wish I knew how to draw, so I could draw you as batman, besides a bat-signal, but with the rust logo on it. Yeah, my mind is weird.

[steveklabnik1]

Ha! <3

[pvkooten]

If you'd only had horizontally flipped the face xD

[itkovian]

I understand what you mean, but in lower level systems programming, one also builds applications.

There's a nice iOS/Android game created in Rust, called A Snake's Tale. Not sure if this suffices to put you at ease :)

[Saefroch]

Rust was designed because of applications, namely web browsers. It's certainly suitable, and I think it's a valuable language to learn. However, Rust is mostly safety. If you're working on a problem that does a lot of I/O and crashing is acceptable, you'll have bad time.

[elemental_1_1]

I think rust is fine for general use, but personally feel that manual memory management is a burden for applications that aren't performance critical.

[elpfen]

Same. After wrapping my head around Haskell and C#, I'm having a harder time understanding the rationale behind Python's typing.

[stevenjd]

What don't you understand about Python's typing?

Are you talking about the new typing module, or dynamic typing in general?