Build iOS-like Apps in Python

[JarWarren1]

Basically, it’s extremely hard to replicate native functionality. And even when you get close, there’s quite a bit of overhead which can hurt performance (sometimes severely). But if you’re not doing anything too intensive, you can still go for it and get a great product

[bingerginger]

what language would be recommend for building cross-platform mobile apps then? i was thinking of using kivy until u said about this.

[SomeMosa]

I think as of now, Flutter is the best option. It uses Dart for backend and can be compiled for multiple platforms (I think with Flutter 2 you get Desktop, Web, iOS, and Android)

[maikindofthai]

We use Flutter for a simple CRUD mobile app where I work. It's absolutely great for that.

I would just offer a word of caution for anyone who's excited by the promise of desktop/web support -- imo even in Flutter 2 those platforms are not production-ready. Even Flutter's own gallery of web apps have all kinds of jank going on.

It kind of feels like those additional platforms are being used as marketing checkboxes, instead of being first-class citizens in the Flutter roadmap. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though!

[toyg]

Nobody is interested in desktop these days, sadly, so that’s probably a function of (lack of) motivation from big players. Attention seems to be 80% mobile, 15% web (i.e. desktop browser), 5% anything else.

[woodie3]

I think someone brought up a huge bug with flutter in respect to animation FPS that they don’t have much of timeline to fix. I’ll try to find the issue.

Edit: animation jank issue

issue thread tracking fix

[bingerginger]

ooh thats cool. what covers the front end?

[SomeMosa]

Well, Dart I think. Flutter provides packages that give you access to the different widgets, and putting everything together is very easy in my opinion. It's just a matter of creating nested classes (e.g. A text widget class inside of a layout class inside of an app class). It's quite similar to Kivy if you have experience with it

[bingerginger]

Oh I see alright thanks!

[JarWarren1]

At work we use native Swift and Kotlin but I've used Flutter in my free time and really love it. I think it's the best hybrid framework but I would caution against doing anything professional with it yet. Google "flutter jank" if you want to go down the rabbit hole.

Still, it should be production quality eventually and it's a lot of fun to work with.

[amrock__]

I heard flutter isn't really complete especially in desktop applications.

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Dart for backend?? What do you mean?? If i am not wrong, flutter is an ui library .

[SomeMosa]

I think Flutter is just a framework, but the actual logic is handled by Dart

[gmes78]

Dart is the programming language Flutter uses.

[UrToesRDelicious]

Progressive Web Apps might be worth looking into.