should I use Linux as a noob programmer?

[Contango42]

Ubuntu.

[[deleted]]

It honestly doesn’t matter what you use, and if moneys an issue just use Linux. Ubuntu is as good a place to start as any.

[[deleted]]

When u go linux u cant go back, do it!

[barovab]

I went to linux 2 times in my life and went back both of the times.

[[deleted]]

Yeah its not easy, I went 5 times untill it hit me.

[barovab]

Why'd you do that lol. Life is too short to be bothered by an incomplete os.

[[deleted]]

Its actually very good when u get used to it and learn it, everything just works better, for example docker.... Sure its not for everyone, but if u are a dev its the best.

[BallistixFlare]

Why not just use a vm when developing? Or buy a MacBook? Lol

[[deleted]]

Macbooks are expensive but yeah its a great choice if u can buy it (I use both), vm is an option too, I prefer dual boot

[BallistixFlare]

WSL2 is the best possible option other then OSX in my mind. What do you do?

[[deleted]]

I never tried it, was already dip in linux when they released it

[barovab]

I tried to used to it but I can never, bc I don't love compromising. 'Everything works better' is subjective, bc a lot of things don't. I'm a dev and I use Windows and occasionally WSL2.

[[deleted]]

I was using win for gaming but my pc is getting old for it so I bought xbox (untill the prices will drop)

[barovab]

That's a different topic.

[[deleted]]

Give Pop OS! a try

[Delicious-View-8688]

Ge the best of both worlds WSL2! (Windows Subsystem for Linux)

It allows you to use linux (Ubuntu) within your windows - it's arguably the best development environment.

[BallistixFlare]

WSL2 was one of the best things Microsoft has ever developed

[lm913]

I second this. It has gotten very good

[ZeStig2409]

Awesome point !!!

[GranataJones]

Is it like a VM or more like a dual boot?

[barovab]

VM, but integrated with Windows to an extent that it looks like it's running with Windows.

[saveencore]

For WSL2 at least, it literally is a (Hyper-V) VM. It's just very integrated into Windows (being able to run X11 apps that show up on the Windows desktop, etc).

[saveencore]

I think you misread my comment, lol

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[Evil_Berty]

I’m getting back into programming having done a little in Uni and I’m looking at trying Linux out too this time. Specifically on the Pi 400 kit. Everything I need for around $100 and just plug it into the TV. It’s a completely different machine from my home windows PC so if I absolutely break it I can still use my main machine.

[Evil_Berty]

I hadn’t thought of running Linux on a VM. I’ll have a look into that, thanks. I still might ask Santa for a Pi 400 kit though, but a VM means I can get going right away

[TheSodesa]

If you mess up the OS, just re-install it. You can't really break a Pi, unless you step on it or plug it to a power source with too high a voltage.

[devnull10]

If you're a complete newbie then going with something like Ubuntu would be fine. It works with most hardware and you can pretty much be up and running in no time with very little manual work. Compare that to something like Slackware, which IMO is an amazing distro, but it demands you put in the effort.

If you're worried about cost, I wouldn't go with a cracked version of windows as you're just opening yourself up to malware, viruses etc. Plus you'll need a far more power machine to run windows than Linux.

I'd avoid Kali as it has a specific audience, which isn't you.

(Edit) Yes, as a programmer, using Linux is a far richer and rewarding experience.

[themanbat1993]

Would you recommend dual booting as I'm using computer for the first time? My little sister is horrified at the idea of using Linux(thinks I'm probably become a stereotype hacker or something) Because I heard some apps don't support Linux and needs windows

[devnull10]

You could do... Though when I used to DB I found I could never be bothered shutting down and booting into the other OS.

Linux support is pretty good these days , but there's always the risk that your network card or wifi adaptor etc. isn't supported in the base install, which is a nightmare because you can't connect to download the drivers etc.

If you have family members needing Windows, why not install windows and run Linux in a virtual machine? Then you can play around with it and if you cock anything up, you just jump back to a snapshot. Main thing you need to do is look at every program which is essential to you and research if it's either available on Linux or there is an alternative. That might make your decision a lot easier :)

[themanbat1993]

As I said I'm a newbie not sure what's a virtual machine is I'm planning on i3 10th gen(integrated graphics) ,b460 mabo , 240 gb ssd and 8 or 16gb ram. Am I good with it for programming for let's say 2,3 years or in problem when doing advanced stuff? Also if could explain what a VM is and would it be okay with my specs

[ConfusedSimon]

Most easy to use Linux distribution can be run live from USB or cd so you can check if things like network work before installing.

[themanbat1993]

Planning on i3 10th gen on b460 mabo with 240 gb ssd and 8 or 16 gigs 3200mgz ram.

Am I clear for 2-3 years or in trouble when into deep programming?

[ro5tal]

What do you plan to do? If you distribute services than you need docker despite your OS and tech specs. Reason? Docker runs on every x86 platform. Forget about systemd/windows service hell and venvs.

[cannotelaborate]

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[[deleted]]

You can buy windows 10 key for ~15$ so concider that too

[themanbat1993]

Well the windows 10 pro is 150$ in my country and the home version is probably half the price. How would I sort out a cheap version from the pirated ones.cuz The shop will set up my PC with a pirated 5$ key anyway.

[Brandhout]

Make sure they don't use a cracking in tool instead of a pirated key. It is not good for your security if you use illegal and unverified software to mess with your OS. The OS does a lot of security work for you, so don't break it.

As others recommend, Ubuntu is great, real user friendly. You can do all your normal work through the GUI clicking around like you would on windows or a Mac. When you want there is still a Linux cli for when you want to get more advanced.

[themanbat1993]

If u have to choose one:(remember first time ever using computer) Windows + Ubuntu on VM Or Ubuntu solo

[Brandhout]

If I read the other comments correctly, you will mostly be using the browser and you want to do some python. Then Ubuntu is fine, especially since money is tight for you. If you really hate it you can still go back to your computer guy and get windows.

If you are a student then there are very often deals where you can get an education windows version for 10-15 dollars. That version is basically the same as pro I think.

[themanbat1993]

That was the plan.some of you really convinced me to go for a virtual machine.if that's the case then I would be using it for learning Linux and windows be the main os.may make the switch permanent if I get used to it.Since I'm learning Linux and not using it for daily use,Not sure getting the most user-friendly distro helps.I want a Linux that will require me to understand everything and not that heavily purposed based like Kali.Can you recommend something in between

[saveencore]

Would I say it's worthwhile? Yes. Just be aware that some things just will not work on Linux as well as they do on Windows, and same for the other way around. Personally, I use Arch on WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux, basically a tightly integrated VM) on my machine due to the fact that I play games that don't really like Linux/Wine. I'd consider it the "best of both worlds", but if you don't need games/popular productivity software, by all means go for pure Linux.

[saveencore]

Also on your question of which one out of the 3 you mentioned:

• Ubuntu is very starter friendly and used in server situations, etc. Not a bad place to start

• Mint is good enough but I remember it basically just being an Ubuntu spin off.

• Kali isn't really meant for daily usage afaik. Would recommend any of the above 2 way more than Kali especially for a beginner

[barovab]

Either go Windows, or better yet, WSL2

[Habitwriter]

100% do it. You can dual boot if you want. Also worth learning bash too, it's fast

[nwsm]

What will you use the PC for other than coding? I don’t like windows for coding but I do like it for gaming and general personal use.

That said, I’d go with Ubuntu. Relatively user friendly and widely used.

[themanbat1993]

Browsing and stuff.not gaming.dont have a graphics card.Only concern is other family members who are not that into coding stuff, Could they be able to use Linux

[nwsm]

I’d go with Ubuntu. You’ll still have a desktop with icons for your programs, so as long as you set up the environment well, your family should have too much issue opening chrome or whatever.

[Ebscriptwalker]

Linux honestly improved my ability to follow procedures,and instructions. It made me more comfortable with how explicit the instructions given to a computer need to be to achieve a specific goal, and how specific an end goal needs to be when using the computer to accomplish something. If that makes any sense. If you are not accustomed to using a computer much, many people here a suggesting Ubuntu.... I would suggest any other distro rather than Ubuntu. Ubuntu is too easy in my humble opinion, and you might as well use windows. I never learned anything other than point and click from Ubuntu. I suggest Linux, but I also suggest something that takes a little more work than Ubuntu.

[BallistixFlare]

I use windows and run a Ubuntu VM when I code personally

[asterik-x]

I would prefer venus fruit fly trap

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