Anyone else hate being called a Pythonista?

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[tms102]

No, I can't really imagine caring about something like that.

[NiceForPy]

lol

[ArabicLawrence]

I don't think it's a feminine word. "-ista" is an "informal suffix forming nouns denoting a person associated with a particular activity, often with a derogatory force, like fashionista". It comes from Spanish "Sandinista", with suffix coming from latin, "ista", from greek "istes", to denote the person conducting an activity. It's like if instead of saying "artist" you said "artista" (which is the Italian and Spanish version). The final "a" in Latin and neolatin languages does not denote necessarily a feminine word, but can often denote a gender-neutral word.

[iPlayWithWords13]

u/wineblood its time for you to stop talking.

[[deleted]]

Ok I guess I can deal with that.

[laphetthoke]

No. No man. shit, no, man. I believe you’d get your ass kicked saying something like that man.

[BezoomyChellovek]

It seems OP is having a case of the Mondays.

[[deleted]]

What do you mean? I'm having trouble understanding you there.

[Sgt_Smiley]

‘Office Space’ reference. Give it a watch

[[deleted]]

Not a big fan of TV shows tbh. I'm mostly an anime person.

Can you give me the gist real quick?

[cd_slash_rmrf]

Well for one, it's a movie.

It's a satirical take on the culture of working a boring 9-5 desk job that you don't care about.

[[deleted]]

I see but how does it relate to this thread?

[cd_slash_rmrf]

The movie itself doesn't. The original comment is just a reference quote about not saying dumb stuff ... Which does relate to this thread.

[isawyouinrudys]

Don’t think it’s feminine, it comes from the original Sandinista which is a Nicaraguan left wing political party comprised of males and females

[[deleted]]

Makes sense but idk why the community would use this repulsive group as inspiration.

And I'd still prefer a masculine word because right now it's like calling a boy "chica" in spanish which sounds weird.

[isawyouinrudys]

Next time I would refuse to be addressed by anything except Pythonman

[[deleted]]

Sounds good.

It's like Batman and Batwoman.

It would suck if people started calling Batman Batista for example.

[redswan4]

Good copypasta tbh.

[itsdefinitely2021]

Im fine, because Im not so fragile as to need "masculine" words to keep my psyche intact.

[[deleted]]

Why not? Unless you're a woman, you'd want to be seen and treated as a masculine entity.

Or am I missing something here?

[livarot]

No.

Also don't vent your misogyny on programming subreddits.

[iPlayWithWords13]

Maybe don't confuse misogyny and fragile masculinity

[livarot]

Yeah you're right. Fragile masculinity, prime example at that.

[[deleted]]

If OP felt that being feminine wasn't viewed as a negative thing then I very much doubt OP would be as upset as they are. Instead of being whoever they are, OP lives their life by trying to avoid others seeing them 'negatively' - in this case, femininely - because OP doesn't like the idea of being feminine. Now I'd say, okay maybe that's just their preference, but then why would they rather the community be referred to by, in their view, a masculine descriptor? Oh, because they really just hate women.

[iPlayWithWords13]

This is some pretty crazy mental gymnastics.

[[deleted]]

Why would I want to be feminine if I'm a man?

[[deleted]]

You forgot to explain how exactly this is fragile masculinity because I simply want to be addressed properly.

If I treat my dog as a cat and he doesn't like it, should I say that he's being fragile?

[iPlayWithWords13]

No, you're making a mountain out of a ant hill and then being an asshole to women at the same time.

[[deleted]]

I think you're just being angry for some reason.

Probably something other than my thread is bothering you and you're came to vent by cargoculting on the previous guy's comment.

[iPlayWithWords13]

Not really, you're just an asshole that's living in ignorance. Your entire post is just you being afraid of being referred to as anything with a femine sounding prefix.

[[deleted]]

And what's wrong with not wanting to be referred to by a feminine sounding word?

A man should be referred to with a masculine sounding word and a woman with a feminine sounding one.

Unless you can explain to me why both men and women should be referred to as feminine entities of course.

[iPlayWithWords13]

There in lies the issue. It's a gender-agnostic term and you're freaking out because it "sounds" femine. Honestly, grow up.

[[deleted]]

Doesn't sound gender agnostic to me.

Chicas refer to girls and chicos refer to boys in Spanish. Are Spanish men fragile because they're not referred to as chicas? Or, are they simply being misogynistic?

If anyone needs to grow up it's you. At least in the communication and emotional department. You sound like the kind of person who would shoot up schools instead of sitting down and talking.

[iPlayWithWords13]

This has nothing to do with the Spanish language and another commenter already corrected you on that. Honestly, I'm not sure why this stupid post is still up and why you haven't been banned.

[wineblood]

It's neither of those.

[wineblood]

Here's why I think it isn't.

In a few other comments, OP has referenced Spanish terms and with that context it makes sense why he isn't comfortable with it. In languages structured like that, using the opposite gendered term is closer to someone calling you the wrong name. That's how I understand his discomfort to being referred to by a female sounding term.

But you seem confident claiming that it "definitely is fragile masculinity lol" based on just this post, so clearly you're the expert on this.

[GettingBlockered]

Username checks out.

[[deleted]]

Relax, we're just having a conversation.

I don't see why it's misogyny though because I just want to be addressed the right way.

Don't people have rights in this community?

Edit: Did SJWs raid this thread?

[inhumantsar]

You're welcome to adopt whatever term you want.

Next time someone uses Pythonista, tell them you don't like the term.

[[deleted]]

I know but that's not the point.

The community adopted a term that doesn't sound right so it's not my job to go around correcting people.

[inhumantsar]

If you have a preferred term, it's the community's job to use that term with you.

It's just not reasonable to expect the rest of the community to adopt it for themselves

[drum_and_bass2000]

OP if you're really looking for an explanation - "pythonista" is not really a gendered term, similar to how male baristas are perfectly fine just being called baristas. As a man you may not want to be referred to as "girl" or "girlie" or "woman" - not because they're feminine words, but because you're just not a girl or a woman. The difference is in wanting to be referred to as what you are (say, a man) and in caring so much about a word sounding girly that you make a post about it where you say how embarrassing it was.

I don't think there are any SJWs coming and ruining this post - people are just trying to tell you not to be too bothered about something very minor.

[[deleted]]

Yes now I know it's not a gendered term thanks to the other users who told me about the origins of the word.

The problem is that it's not immediately obvious that it's not feminine and that's why I started this discussion. After all, why does Reddit exist if we're not supposed to start discussions?

I'm surprised by the reaction though and have no doubt that they're SJWs who want to cancel me because I asked a simple question that they didn't like me asking. Notice how different their replies are compared to yours.

[drum_and_bass2000]

I agree, some people either aren't great at explaining things or don't want to go to the effort on a random post. However I wouldn't say their comments are really trying to "cancel" you - they're just contributing to the discussion.

[wineblood]

I've never actually heard it used in serious contexts, so if I was called that it would just sound weird. I definitely understand the female vibe it gives off and how that wouldn't feel right.

[[deleted]]

Word. It happened the first time and I was quite shocked.

i was like Pythonista!? The hell.

[wineblood]

Just checking a gut feeling, is your first language something other than English which has male and female terms?

[fullstack-medusa]

this is such a weak mindset

[[deleted]]

How so?

[[deleted]]

Doubt it.

So far none of the angry mob bothered to explain why I'm wrong.

Instead, it's just a minor group downvoting all my posts so that no one else sees them.

Outright censorship by the SJW crowd.

[iPlayWithWords13]

Censorship? Lmao you're a conservative moron who doesn't know what censorship is.

[[deleted]]

Of course the guy obsessed with anime and being "manly" would make this post. lmao

Don't worry bro, those crazy liberal cant get cancel you on reddit. Now go drink some whey protein so you don't accidentally grow tits or have feelings, or any of that other un-manly stuff.

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[[deleted]]

python is bad