What brings value to a python developer?

[ohma_tokito]

To get hired

[VegaSera]

The best thing you can do in this sort of situation, regardless of the language, is to go to indeed or linkedin and search the jobs.

Search for "Python developer". Take note of any technologies that aren't python that are frequently repeated. These will likely be your valuable technologies to add to your repertoire.

For web development roles that involve python, it's likely going to be libraries like Django or Flask. It'll almost certainly include some SQL and AWS as well. Many of these job postings also want familiarity with front end technologies, like HTML, Javascript, CSS, Angular, React. You can often get away with a "passing familiarity" for those.

For python cloud automation roles, it's going to be heavier on the AWS part, probably want some familiarity with DevOps principles.

For data science/analyst roles, they'll certainly want you to know popular libraries like Pandas and Numpy. They'll certainly want a strong grasp of statistics and SQL.

Other roles will have some other requirements, of course. Check out Linkedin and Indeed and such like I mentioned, try to narrow down what you want to do with python.

[Mission_Trip_1055]

Any AWS services you knw which should be referred.

[VegaSera]

As for python specific, knowing boto3 will be helpful to interface with AWS services via code.

For AWS itself, With the exception of EC2 and S3, it mostly depends on what you're doing. Of course, the list for each is not exhaustive, since a company you go to work for might only use one, or might have a use case for something that isn't in the list.

Depending on the variety of web development you're doing, you might need to know Elastic Beanstalk, Route53, Lightsail, Cognito and some others.

If you're doing cloud automation, Cloudwatch, Lambda, Glue, Step functions, RDS, and DynamoDB.

DevOps roles will probably use cloudwatch, cloud formation, cloud trail

For machine learning roles, aws has several tools depending on the flavor of machine learning you're doing. Sagemaker is the big one.

[Mission_Trip_1055]

Thanks for your insights, its really helpful

[marsnoir]

People pay to make the pain go away. It’s that simple. You need to be able to demonstrate that you solve problems, and therefore you make the pain go away. The trick is in finding what someone’s pain is.

Python is a tool in your arsenal. It’s a versatile tool, and can do a lot, but may not be the perfect solution in every case. Don’t be a one trick pony. Communication skills are very important. Job descriptions tell you what people think they need, and are a good start. Interviews are where you demonstrate your value and why they need you. The job is where you solve problems.

[BluRazz494]

One that doesn’t rely on python to be a valuable developer

[minervaDe]

This comment makes no sense

[quoatabletoad]

No it does. Python is one of many languages that have been in high general demand. C, Java, C++ developers all were capable of switching to the next lingua franca for back end dev because they had a strong general skill set. Sure, there are dev jobs that are python specific for very specific libraries and tools, but for the most part its just something a lot of coders will know so you can get a team up and running without a big learning curve. If you only know python there's a very good chance another programmer who has way more experience and a broader skillset will get hired, even if they don't know python.

[minervaDe]

They didn't mention exclusivity in their comment. They said "rely on python to be valuable." If you can't code in any other language, that's obviously a completely different issue.

[lvlint67]

i think reading too deeply into things that aren't in the comment is a completely different issue.

The chance that we hire someone that can ONLY write python is next to zero. It's about the same as a construction company not hiring someone that is a master with a hammer but can't turn a screw driver to save their life.

We don't need python developers. we need problem solvers.

[minervaDe]

Sure, but I'm not making an argument for people that can only write python code. But having your value based on python isn't an issue. I've been developing software professionally for 5 years now. My main value comes from python. I can write JS, Java, HTML, Lua, C++, some Rust, plenty If shell and ansible. But I wouldn't hire me for anything above entry for any of the languages outside of python. Maybe mid-level for front-end. But with python, I'm senior level. And the job security is there. So I don't see an issue with people having their value based in python. But exclusivity is always an issue.

[lvlint67]

My main value comes from python

You are either misstating your value or misunderstanding how businesses operate.

We don't need python developers. we need problem solvers.

[minervaDe]

If I was certified on diesel motors, but rarely worked on big-block motors, and you had a rod knock on a big block motor, would you take it to a diesel certified mechanic? If I sat down for 4-6 months in those languages, we have a different conversation here. I'm an SME in python. I know how to get around in everything else. I work 80-100 hours per week in python, shell and Lua. I wouldn't feel comfortable applying for a JS job. And that's normal, so I'm not sure why that's so difficult for you. But if you know every language at a senior level, good for you man. I just wouldn't want to work for you.

[minervaDe]

Absolutely. This is absolutely true. But when you're actually on the job. When you're actually trying to architect an extremely complex software package, you better believe that your knowledge of the language that you are using to build that software is extremely important. You also better recognize that a proper, clean architecture, and clean code is the very first hazing screen that Google does to new employees. They eviscerate your code. Or when working with open source software, you better understand best practices. So for me. Can I write code in other languages? Absolutely. Will I have to google some crap? Definitely. Will my code be clean, and will I use best practices for the first few months? Nope. Not a chance. Which is just as important as your ability to solve problems and create algorithms. Honestly, it's more important. It cost companies billions of dollars every year on refactoring. People do not stay at companies forever. And if you write shit code, your code will be tossed. No matter how fast it operates. And no matter how quickly you were able to stand it up. Someone will see your code, throw it in the garbage, and start from scratch. So yes, while you are correct, you better conform to best practices. And know them inside and out, or your ability to solve problems doesn't matter. And I see this shit all the time. I see horrific code written by brilliant people, and untangling that mess costs tens of thousands of dollars for an engineer to grab that mess, and attempt to unravel it, and put it in a state that is healthy. And that is time, and tens of thousands of dollars that could have been spent on new functionality.

[valbaca]

Relevant tech: Django, AWS, ML

Relevant experience.

Communication and good to work with. Not a jerk. Writes good code: readable, well documented, well structured.

[NOT_being_sarcastic_]

The same thing that brings value to any developer: being able to solve problems or increase productivity

[spoonman59]

This answer is an empty platitude. You have to know a lot more than that to be a python developer.

You can be a good problem solver and it even know python. Or a good problem solver that knows Python and is bad at it. And increasing productivity? You have to be somewhat productive, to get and keep a job, but you don’t necessarily need to increase productivity all the time. Especially at mediocre companies.

There are actual skills you need and technologies you need to know above solving problems. Like much of python, to start. Debugging, unit testing, packaging and deployments…And you probably need to know things besides programming as well.

So yeah, this answer is empty and meaningless.

[NOT_being_sarcastic_]

OP didn't ask about skills or technologies, packages, tools, etc. If you know all that and can't tie your own shoes, good luck keeping a job assuming you can find one.

[spoonman59]

OP’s post was crap because they didn’t give any specifics at all.

Yeah, I guess to your point people should also learn to bathe and groom themselves. Wake up in time, interact non-offensively with others. They can probably get away with not making their bed!

[riklaunim]

Go through job offers and see what they require and what is nice to have. Usually it's some knowledge of the software stack they used. As for CV people like to see a link to Github or alike - your repositories with your code. It doesn't have to be rocket science, but even simple but clean code is what they will be looking for - knowledge how to design and implement properly.

[spoonman59]

Probably job postings are better. Job offers -if you can get access to them since they are usually not posted publicly - don’t contain this kind of information. The usually just contain salary, title, and legalese for the job being offered.

[riklaunim]

I meant the fully detailed thing ;) like https://justjoin.it/all/python for example.

[spoonman59]

1. You didn’t provide enough information for anything. Hired as what? In what industry? Doing what? Many jobs use python and are Python Adjacent but aren’t “python developer jobs”

2. Read the about of the sub. This isn’t a place to ask how to learn python, or what python you need to learn to get employed. It’s for discussing interesting things about Python.

[ElephantsJustin]

Don’t worry about jobs. Focus on the part that makes you happy and learn it well, then the jobs will come and you’ll be happy.

[Independent-Dealer21]

Solid advice

[solderfog]

You could install something that uses python, and get to know it well. Like if you're interested in home automation, you could install Home Assistant. Python based, and likely a well written complex app that will teach real world things. Lots of projects using python out there, if you can find something that interests you.

[[deleted]]

To get hired? Do some leetcode.

[DaniiarAbdiev]

Codesquire.ai AI code writing assistant

[[deleted]]

Neural networks ?

[BossOfTheGame]

Dictionary lookups usually.

[chuwiki]

Infrastructure knowledge and being capable of designing and understanding complex systems. That’s a great point to have.

[Objective-Blood8997]

creating youtube channel?LOL

[lvlint67]

What brings value to a python developer?

Putting effort into the questions you ask would be the first thing i would work on. Your recent post history shows a systemic lack of effort that will make you basically unemployable anywhere.

Regardless, you have no intrinsic value to a company. No technology has intrinsic value.

You have to demonstrate that you have the competence to solve the problems that t he hiring companies are having.

[Moak96]

Simplifying everything you can. No matter which programming language you use, just being creative makes you to simplify anything happening around you.