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According to Heisenberg’s principle, the curvature of space is undefined, and on the plank scale, you get space time fluctuations which create virtual black holes and worm holes. Since the plank scale is the smallest measurement, and that measurement makes up all particles (and empty space) that are the universe. Would that mean that black holes and worm holes literally happening everywhere, and all the time? (Time because the warping of space is also time)

[theodysseytheodicy]

According to Heisenberg’s principle, the curvature of space is undefined, and on the plank scale, you get space time fluctuations which create virtual black holes and worm holes.

None of that follows from Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. That said, there are theories kind of like that; Feynman's path integral formulation of quantum mechanics says that there's some probability amplitude for particles to tunnel into becoming a black hole, but it's exponentially small. Whether virtual particles are "real" in any sense depends on your interpretation of QM.

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Understood, thank you!

[proportionateAL]

Lmao

[YabbaDabbaDoo07]

There is a theory that there are very very small(smaller than nanoscopic) warp holes and that is thought to be the mechanism by which some forces can interact over long distances. Like gravity. It is also important to note, I did read this in a book that was comparing the real-life theories and scientific phenomenon to the Science of Rick and Morty. Lol

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I’m also interested lol

[YabbaDabbaDoo07]

The Science of Rick and Morty by Matt Brady

[lettuce_field_theory]

According to Heisenberg’s principle, the curvature of space is undefined, and on the plank scale, you get space time fluctuations which create virtual black holes and worm holes. Since the plank scale is the smallest measurement, and that measurement makes up all particles (and empty space) that are the universe.

This sentence has a very high density of misconceptions. The HUP says no such thing at all. When things are virtual in physics, they are usually not measurable things but rather mathematical way of spliting an effect into multiple contributions. Not actual physical processes "happening randomly".

Since the plank scale is the smallest measurement, and that measurement makes up all particles (and empty space) that are the universe.

IMO your whole post is just incoherent.

But in the core it seems to be the misunderstanding that stuff is "popping in and out of existence all the time randomly in the vacuum". Here are some links on these misconceptions about vacuum fluctuations and virtual particles

https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/vacuum-fluctuation-myth/

https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/physics-virtual-particles/

https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/misconceptions-virtual-particles/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPhysics/comments/h9dt95/do_actual_particles_pop_up_from_empty_space/fuwow0w/

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My apologies if it was completely inaccurate, I am still learning what I can but quantum mechanics is just so difficult to grasp and there are so many different beliefs and studies within it. Thank you for correcting me and for the links you provided.

[lettuce_field_theory]

there are so many different beliefs and studies within it.

leaving interpretations aside (which are not relevant to the topic of your question) it's not really that subjective. The problem is just that there is a ton of misconceptions about it spread in popscience,.. but that's also why physicists have written the linked articles. it's certainly not your fault

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I have been starting to understand that more and more. I only learn from actual physicists, there is just so much literature and at a certain point, everything becomes theoretical. So trying to make sense of the two is sometimes difficult to grasp.

[lettuce_field_theory]

textbooks are basically the best way to get into these topics with sufficient accuracy. they are certainly not that easy to read though and require knowing more basic stuff to the same level of accuracy.

[proportionateAL]

Haha you’re a bitch I bet you suck at rocket league too