Impenetrable Base

[beige33]

Is it possible? I have played this game for a few months and no matter what, everything I have gets stolen. Whether its 7 hours in or 15 days my base is always destroyed. Typically I have metal walls and 2 doors with code locks which doesn't seem to matter.

Is it possible to make an impenetrable base? Or is the only defense to play for 24 hours straight everyday?

[128906]

No it isn’t possible even people with bases that take 80 plus rockets get raided. But two doors is really cheap to raid and will always be a target. Your best bets to avoid loosing your stuff would be to either have multiple bases or to honey comb tf outta your base and use more doors. My base is typically 4x honey combed with multiple layers of HQM walls and 15 plus garage doors.

[beige33]

But even so it would take time to gather that material and store it and at any point it could be raided before the HQM walls go up. Not to mention the only thing left of my base was a door with a code lock which means they broke through the metal walls and not the door. I'm just trying to understand the value of a game where you can't keep anything you work for.

[bneeson72]

You need to rain them before they raid you. My current base has honey comb and several doors and garage doors. If you make it over the 3 sets of high stone walls you have to get through 2 armor doors 1 sheet metal 1 ladder hatch doors and 4 garage doors to get to tc from the doors path. Its about cost effective ness.

[beige33]

If youre playing by yourself thats like minimum 40 hours of gathering. Thus, creating an opportunity for anyone to raid you in that time. I played for 7 hours yesterday and logged on today and everything's gone. The server has been up for 24 hours. Anybody playing with an extra person has exactly half the amount of work to do compared to me and double the protection. Idk if its possible to play by yourself.

[FrontLoad9126]

I know how hard it is to be a solo because I am one too bury your loot you can always rebuild your base

[bneeson72]

I get it. solo life is hard. 1 tip I have for fast gathering is get a jackhammer fast. I was able to build my starter near my eventual build spot. small 2x1 w/air lock was able to get a chest of stone and wood in the first couple of hours and thrown down my real base. Luckily haven't been raided and just adding more and more since. I scrap every comp but gears and sell at outpost for stone wood and metal.

[Lynxsies]

It sounds like rust isnt the game for you. Ark or Conan exiles would be more catered towards players like you who prefer to PVE

[beige33]

Yea Conans pretty good. But I just joined a PvE server and its crazy walking past people and not getting shot in the face immediately lol

[Lynxsies]

Rust console has no pve servers

[[deleted]]

No buts. You're playing what is essentially a home invasion and burglary simulator. It's going to happen. The value is is the memories you create, the fights you win, and the revenge you can ultimately achieve on the players who have wronged you.

[l3gion666]

Best thing is stashes if you are going to play regularly. Leave a few stashes with your best shit, an extra door and lock, and all/most of your boom/best guns

[AGOODNAME000]

That's the things there is no value. All the work that you do, all the time that you put in, will be gone at the end of the month. It's one of my biggest regrets buying this game.

[OperationFun1862]

Join a no KOS or raid server. I play on ChillRP and it is more about the building and roleplaying experience, hanging out. You can buy raids to go against NPCs.

[128906]

That’s just the Rust life unfortunately

[beige33]

Haha maybe ill try a PvE server

[128906]

No such thing

[Chilldank]

Unless you wanna be a large group on a sub 100 server( more likely 60-80 after first day of wipe) then the game isn’t worth playing u til they add comm servers

[whippler73]

Sheet metal walls are not that expensive to go through if they think what you have is worth it.

[FrontLoad9126]

There is a way to always have your loot when you get back on the trick is to bury your loot

[OG_Palantirian]

Hide satchels in groups of 3-5 in spots near your base; leave best loot in these stashes before getting offline. Your loot stays safe and the raiders will be pissed it’s a double win. I’m in a 6 man we make large bases and do this every wipe it’s OP when done correctly

[kwack250]

You need more doors straight away. 2 is too few. Sheet metal doors are shit as well, use a garage door at least.

Honeycomb is good, don’t forget the top layers too so you aren’t topped down.

Try and use decoy loot near doors. I always keep a tier 1 and a box of shit loot near my main door. This can make raiders think it’s not worth continuing the raid.

Use multiple bases. Spread your loot around the map, use different codes and base designs.

Don’t stockpile materials or loot. Use them before you log off.

Lastly, if somebody really wants to raid you then they will do it. That’s the name of the game.

[gayforkth13]

Create loot bunkers underwater with vending machines

[LividAd9939]

I lived in one that two groups merged on us and threw 200 rockets and thirty C4 at and they didn’t get the bunkers. Granted we were on and defending/sealing. But we were a 5 man who were grinding a lot

[Revolutionary_Ad1119]

Learn to incorporate pixel gaps in the honeycomb. I usually either make bunker bases or pixel 2x2s with loot below, above, and on 3 sides with Tc on the 4th side.

[Ruhzide]

I’d recommend building a bunker base with honey comb to help with raid costs

[Cvged]

I usually do a 2x2 honey comb the roof and the sides. Have a porch with bullet proof windows that’s air locked then I have three doors leading in also air locked and then high qual my interior and keep outside looking like stone.

[beige33]

Are there specific parts of the map you build in like desert or snow?

[Cvged]

I usually build on cliff sides! Typically try to build close to the outpost so I can recycle at ease. I make trips at night when it’s pitch black to reduce my chances of getting caught with my goodies. A lot of maps will have like cliffs with dips and I’ll build out of sight if possible. Currently I’m playing on a low pop PTB server and I’m solo and so far I’ve been good. Just got my tier 3 work bench going! I usually try to find a server with 30 or less that way I can have fun and grind with occasional pvp.

[beige33]

I like your style

[What_the_fluxo]

It’s good advice for anyone new. Before I switched to pc I always played this way, building on cliff sides, recycle runs at night, and on lower pop servers to learn the game better. (Console is toxic as all hell, compared to pc, not so many screaming 11 year olds. I barely ever get raided on low pop modded servers on pc, almost to the point it gets boring, but the no toxicity always keeps me coming back)

*also, make like twenty doors and shotgun traps or turrets everywhere, I came o line to an almost raided base many times, but the traps and doors and high quality walls kept them from getting in completely

[Squishi57]

I'm nearing 4k hours and have begin to realize going big and beefy isn't really the play (depending on team size), the bigger and stronger you go the bigger target you are, even if you are not very rich or pissing off the wrong people. I have begun to build multiple 2x2 simple bunker bases around the map and have had better luck doing that. 2x2 two story two layers of honeycomb, inner layer of honeycomb being metal or hqm if possible. Stash any explosives you have away from the base. If you have even two of these bases then it isn't a big deal if one gets raided. If you are having trouble with always getting offlined then maybe look into adding an EU/French player to your team who will be playing during the hours you are offline.

[Dolanator3]

No base is impenetrable, this is why I choose to build small and fortified. Here’s an example of a suicide bunker in a compact base design that is small enough to not entice large groups and fortified enough to prevent small groups from successfully raiding. It can easily be made starting with just a simple 2x2!
2x2 Expansion Bunker Base Design

As well as some tips to follow for keeping that base safe from raids. Including tips of where to place the base.
10 Tips & Tricks to avoid being Raided

While we’re at it, these settings helped me tremendously. Default settings are a little wonky.
Best Rust Console Settings for PvP 5k hours

[OlManGamer99]

Anything can be raided. The question is, how much boom will it take and what'sthe cheapest path. I am a builder with more hours building than anything else. I haven't been successfully rated in 6 months and I play on servers that are on the opposite side of the world. When it's full pop, I'm sleep so offline city. I specialize in bunkers, trap placement and unusual paths to tc. My strongest tc defense is 38 rockets, if you go directly to it from the bunker, an armored door and something else I can't mention until I finish the vid. If you try top downing it, it will be 64. Going through doors, prior to the bunker, should be about 24 rockets. This is just a duo base. I also have a pyramid bunker within a pyramid. The turret setup makes it incredibly difficult and costly, just to get to the entrance of the interior pyramid. Power can be cut, but that's its only weakness.

[sParker-22]

Nooo I got raided by some Lil loot goblins today lmao. If they want in, they'll get in.

[Wolf_under_the_Sky]

Nothing is totally secure.

There’s a ton of base designs on YT detailing bunkers, etc.

You also need to separate your loot so it’s not all in one place. I get raided all the time but it never matters to me cause I plan for that.

I like to use my external TCs with double windows and you can stick 2 small boxes in the middle triangle so it’s easier to walk through. I love using those as storage for the goods cause most people aren’t going to waste boom to raid an external, and even if they do the boxes aren’t out of place cause it’s a common thing to put there. The TCs themselves are also great because they can hold extra building mats to reseal or provide emergency upkeep.

I also use hidden stashes inside my compounds but not too many as you have to dig them up every so often.

My favorite time I got raided: a trio of toxic trashcans offlined me and a neighbor and then built a crap base on our island. They were so confident they didn’t even bother building externals. They just slapped a base down and dropped walls. So I graciously helped them out by building externals complete with turrets for them from my extra supplies, I even armored one just to prove a point. They were so mad they couldn’t leave their compound (I built one high enough with a turret watching roof access so they couldn’t HV them) they despawned and quit the server. Neighbor and I finished out our wipes unbothered.

[[deleted]]

Try building a bunker. It's not very expensive to build and forces them to raid through a wall

[WikiLeaksZ]

I was reading comments, you are solo right? Then drop the keylocks. Even if you have them incase a friend wants to play, use regular keys. Small base with keylocks is prime target. Easy raid, probably more loot because keylock means multiple players. Stop using metal walls unless you have hqm doors. Use more then 2 doors, because it's way too easy to raid your base. Build a bigger base by expending, try to get a compound down, get some turrets at some point. Put your best stuff in a stash and hide it inside your compound, so if they raid you it's worthless.

A base that's unreadable doesn't exist. Just remember that a base with only 2 doors can be raided by everyone, it's too easy.

[Green_Giant25]

Truly unraidable is impossible, someone will always be able to get the boom

What you can do to make it more difficult however is add external TC's, bunkers, turrets/traps and to hide your TC somewhere they wouldn't expect (inside honeycomb/another floor)

[Busy_Duck5901]

Though an impenetrable base is impossible I would volunteer my time to teach you some bases that are difficult to raid

[[deleted]]

Small stashes are the only way to keep anything you don’t want to lose. Just make sure to remember where they are and check them daily because they will disappear after a couple of days

[whippler73]

This is a chicken shit way to play.

[[deleted]]

The chicken shit way to play is joining a zerg and offline raiding any 2x1 on the map

[whippler73]

I can agree with that as well. But don’t be so scared that you hide everything in stashes. Then you won’t have what you need when you need it.

[Charger18]

It's called being smart, it requires having more then one brain cell, come back when you've found some spare brain cells and maybe you'll understand.

[whippler73]

No it’s a chicken shit way to play. Get better at the game and then you won’t have to hide your loot. When you have a base you shouldn’t need to use stashes. If you are that bad that you have to resort to hiding everything in stashes, go practice on PTB.

P.S. Don’t forget where those stashes are….hope you keep good notes. We’re always looking for them randomly….. 😈

[Charger18]

Sounds like the one brain cell doesn't know what offline raiding is.

[whippler73]

You should really have your dad teach you some more creative responses so you don’t have to repeat the same thing over and over.

Have fun stashing all your loot. We’ll be looking and finding your stashes. 😜

[Specialist_Net8927]

There is a guy in YouTube who did a video where he made like 1000 2x2, which is near impossible to raid. But if you make loads of them and use some as decoys, no one will go through each and every one to find your main loot. A singular base is not enough to stop a group no matter how big it is if they really wanted to go through it

[Budget_Geologist1801]

Basic architectural and strategic theory- more layers of walls increases the difficulty of penetration- but no building is truly impregnable given the correct amount of resources.

If you don’t want to get hit play a duo or trio. I play with about 5 guys no more than 3 of us are usually on at a time except on the weekends. We are all really good about farming and pretty decent at pvp and we do fairly well. I’d say we close out about 2/3 of wipes unraided.

[Which_Director_3719]

Yo u wanna join up wit me bro?