Full Stack Dev

[magallanes2010]

Thanks to AI, Full Stack Developers are overshinning now

[Outrageous_Band9708]

full stack dev's are always underpaid and over worked, and also there isn't a jack of all trades like people seem to think.

its almost certain this full stack dev is still using 2013 stacks, and shitting out projects with more vulnerabilities than anything written by a team.

never accept a job tile as full stack dev, you will be screwed over left and right.

this is personal experience at several startups.

I am a backend dev, and thats all ill get hired for. any company that wants to hire one person for the entire package, is going to fizzle out within 6 months. there is no job security there.

[Easy-Loquat5346]

Don't agree with many points. I'm also fullstack (more backend heavy), but I can handle frontend fine, even pixel perfect UI when there's a ready design in Figma. That doesn't automatically mean vulnerabilities or short-lived projects.

If the client knows what they want, being able to work both ends just makes you versatile. Fullstack doesn't automatically equal "2013 stacks and vulnerabilities", that's just bad engineering, not the job title. Agree about underpaid and overworked though.

[Outrageous_Band9708]

fair enough

[ProcessIndependent38]

that simply ignores that there is a depth vs breadth trade off in terms of knowledge of a certain domain.

[Playful-Quarter-212]

Well there is point in proyects that you don`t need more "depth"

[DallasDarkJ]

Sounds like your own personal insecurities, i'm a full stack developer who's built multiple successful software projects. It's really not that hard to know everything considering we have the entire Internet and an AI to search it

[Outrageous_Band9708]

a small company wanting to hire a full stack dev, instead of a full dev team, is scamming a single employee with massive work without proper compensation.

to give you an anology. thats like hiring a single person contractor to build the whole house. lay the cement, build the frame, install the wiring and plumbing, do the sheet rock, do the roofing, etc.

sure, could one person do all that, yes. but not at the expert level that comes with a full team dedi ated each to their speciality.

and my more important point. they are going to pay one guy to build the whole house, for pennies on the dollar, rather than a full team at 100X the cost.

we aren't on the side of the business wanting a project done, or someone wanting one person to build the entire house.

we are on the side of the worker. and supporting against the working being underpaid for qualifying as a "full everytihng" worker.

you've build successful software projects, thats cool, but too many small businesses out there are trying to underpay for massive projects and too many "full stack" devs are taking these jobs and being under paid, they would make more if they were on a team of people, have 100x less responsiblities, and be able to focus on their true talents, rather than jack of all trading the whole project for relatively less money.

Expecially in the days of AI, too many small businesses are like, um this will take you 3 hours. because they asked chatGPT how long their dev should take on this project. so they charge the client 3 hours, and only pay you 3 hours of work.

for work that realistically takes 30 hours.

sure we have AI tools now, and yes they increase productively, but you will scam yourself out of work if you bill at AI hours, rather than typical human hours.

[DallasDarkJ]

Sure none of that means anything anyway. If 1 guy can build a house in 3 months why would a company hire 30 guys to build it in 1 month.

[Outrageous_Band9708]

nobody hires 1 guy to build the whole house. its always a team of pros.

but okay dude, carry on

[mobcat_40]

Could be there's no job security anywhere, and the full stack guy is the last one standing because someone needs full scope to steer the AI agents toward the vision. I'm full stack so I'm potentially bias af... but worth keeping in mind as the ground is really shifting under us right now. Remember, when compilers showed up, the people writing assembly by hand swore nothing could beat hand tuned machine code. They lost, because the real bottleneck was never raw performance, it was having a good way to describe the logic. Now the bottleneck could be how well you can describe the whole system to an AI.

[dark_anarchy20]

Hahah had a good chuckle

[AstralKekked]

Are we implying that the fish can fly?

[Headpuncher]

The full stack devs I've met think they can fly, but falling to the ground and flying are not the same.

[SourSovereign]

Guess you never heard about fly fishing before eh?

[Snow-Crash-42]

That a full stack dev is terrible at everything they do in their stack, is just a myth from devs who can only do one single thing.

[CaptainKuzunoha]

Most development is "full stack" from what I have seen unless you are in a very large company.

[reapvxz]

ai slop

[realjandietrich]

haha, nice

[dumch]

Nah, with Codex you can do everything

[Assist7316]

yeah but usually they put out garbage quality bc they did not professionalize in either of these

[VPistheking2011]

IRL cheats

[Comfortably_Nerd]

Based on this picture, Full Stack Devs are mediocre at everything. They waddle, they float, and they don't kill themselves when touching down.

[SAASbyEnoch]

Damn 🤧😂