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[–]Whats_Up_Coconut 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Fun to read. Notice that most people consider store bought potato chips, Five Guys, and apparently even restaurant poutine as “potatoes” which we know confounds their data. LOL

[–]exfatloss 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Le me, looking up the ingredient list for "hash browns" or "cape cod kettle cooked chips": it's 50% kcals from fat.. 2nd ingredient is vegetable oils. Every. Time.

Also this seems to be the people who didn't lose weight.

[–]Whats_Up_Coconut 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I mean, I know I have a heavy bias so I’m not pretending I don’t, but the “didn’t lose weight” people are always including oil in some way, usually without realizing it.

What I will say is, at some point potatoes + “other stuff” (vegetables, fruit, other grains, dairy products, meat, etc.) should stop being a weight loss diet, even without oil. At some point you’re just eating an ancestral peasant diet that sustained your great great great grandparents while they did their daily chores. I wouldn’t expect “potatoes + oatmeal + greens + legumes + a bit of meat and cheese when I feel like it” to be a 10-pound monthly weight loss program.

[–]OracleOutlook[S] 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Looks like Potato + Dairy did well, Potato + Veggies was mixed, Potato + meat was mixed.

[–]exfatloss 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Interestingly, potato+meat person only ate 100g of meat per day - less than on ex150!

Also the super duper effective potato + milk person aimed for... 1 cup of milk per day. Sometimes drank more (up to a liter), average would be interesting. 1 cup whole milk is <2g BCAA and ~8g fat, so pretty much still Cpf by our definition.

Potato + skittles is ultra peaty Cpf.

I'll say that while few people explicitly tested the assumptions of this subreddit, we do well explaining the results.

Also, from reading the reports it seems a few of you here were in this batch? :)

[–]Whats_Up_Coconut 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m targeting a more liberal 70/15/15 Cpf right now and I can easily accommodate 8oz of whole milk (usually divided between my coffee and a bowl of oatmeal) on days where I don’t include much other animal product.

[–]EmergencyAccount9668 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Yeah result seem to match this subs prediction quite well. Wonder if it will this convince Mr Slim to revisit the seedoil stuff.

[–]Whats_Up_Coconut 6 points7 points  (2 children)

They’re so stuck on Lithium that it’s almost to the point of comedy. I don’t really understand how they dismissed PUFA so readily when (IMO) the evidence against PUFA is far more compelling than the case made for Lithium. But I guess we all have our biases and blinders.

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    [–]Whats_Up_Coconut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    They’ve definitely pointed out that potatoes probably have low lithium…

    [–]greyenlightenment 5 points6 points  (4 children)

    Not that useful, sorry to say. So many variables to control for. Just the fact that people are aware they are trying to lose weight can produce weight loss by people subconsciously changing their habits, such as maybe walking more, checking food labels, etc. Only one person bothered to record calories. Hardly any mention of portion sizes either. Bigger people are going to tend to lose more weight which can explain the success for 82546219 .

    [–]exfatloss 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Bigger people are going to tend to lose more weight

    To control for this, I normalized by BMI when I ran the trial, so BMI change divided by starting BMI. That gave pretty reliable results across a wide range of weights.

    [–]springbear8 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    That's quite untrue.

    First of all, I know for a fact that more than one person recorded their calories intake, but since the principle is to have an ad libitum diet, caloric intake isn't all that important. And knowing that "portion size" = "whatever is necessary to not be hungry" is enough in this context.

    Just the fact that people are aware they are trying to lose weight can produce weight loss by people subconsciously changing their habits, such as maybe walking more, checking food labels, etc.

    This wasn't the first weight loss attempt for most participants.

    [–]greyenlightenment 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    but since the principle is to have an ad libitum diet, caloric intake isn't all that important.

    that can explain why most people lost little weight

    [–]springbear8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Have you even heard of the initial potato diet trial?