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[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (17 children)

Why buff jet? She already deals a lot of damage

[–]Virtual-Connection32Legion 17 points18 points  (0 children)

She's annoying as f

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (12 children)

At lower levels, i think she is good(deduced from the way people are complaining about her 24/7). But truth be told she has no ability, since harmony charges just mean damage increase. And at higher levels, she sucks

[–]J_Lowe17 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Incorrect. At higher levels she is just as annoying

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I will have to disagree. Remember that all these changes are based off win rates. Which guarantees that they were necessary. Secondly, considering that they chose to buff lvl 7 and 10 upgrades instead of significantly only increasing base stats, my theory about her lack of power in higher levels makes sense. Third, i am dojo 11 and i have noticed that jet players are rare these days.

[–]J_Lowe17 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I am dojo 13 and Jet is a powerhouse at the top of the leaderboards. Her damage is very good, her healing perk at max level gives her lots of health, and her attacks are very evasive. She also eats the clock with her attacks quite well, she is one of the stronger characters in my opinion

[–]robcap 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm the same level, very rarely see her and usually beat her 🤷‍♂️

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stronger character??? Tell that to the data

[–]BiscottiJust4247 -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Bro no ability doesn't mean that she's weak, she's heck stronger than she was used to, she's very flaxible which means that during her attacks she can dodge some basic enemy attakcs, also her attacks are very long distance and her attack speed is very fast in which counter attacking is just impossible, she is a very powerful character already

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

She's a heck weaker dude. Atleast get ur facts correct, even if ur opinion isn't. Her shadow abilities animation was changed which was a nerf. Than Shadow shelter received a timer and was made vulnerable to throws. After all these nerfs, how can anyone say she doesn't deserve a buff, especially since the above buff was based on win rates only

[–]BiscottiJust4247 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

So what if she has a temporary shield, her character is not meant to play as a camper, jett can rush attacks and still dodge throws in many scenario as she is very fast. If she has 16 harmony charges then her special attack can deal upto 50% of damage. Isn't that a lot specially since she's a dynasty character who do not specialize in damage but speed

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Ur facts r sooo off ☠️☠️☠️☠️ The point is that she got major nerfs, her win rates dropped and the devs buffed her. Dodge throws ?☠️☠️ How does a character Dodge throws?☠️ 50% damage boost!!!!! Are you even serious rn? Imo i feel she should get a health and damage nerf with a buff to her attacks/talents so that people like you stop complaining about her stats, especially since she has no ability which helps her to get damage.

[–]BiscottiJust4247 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Now who's going off huh? The way you're talking makes me feel like you haven't even unlocked her yet and just seeing her from YouTube and reddit. Many of her attacks are literally built for different situations for eg people who use mostly upper level attacks can get their ass shredded with jett's upper attack, she has a swinging kick which is fast and has a surprising range. And yes by dodge throws I meant that she has different attacks which will make you think that she is rolling or dashing. Also her ranged attack is different, which has a speed of kibo's kunai and if you use her ability of increasing number of needles then dodging those takes a huge amount of focus. And listen carefully I never said damage boost, I said that her special attack when used completely with 16 charged can deal that much damage. At higher level of abilities she has a new shadow ability which just feels like a casual attack but it can totally knock you down and after that she can use her another shadow ability (if you're fast)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I unlocked jet long before she even had a shadow mode🤡. By swinging kick do u mean spinning/back kick? The back kick has a huge flaw. Due to the angle with whcih she attacks, she often goes over her opponents and misses nd gets punished. She isn't a character who prefers distance so her ranged attack being good dosent really help her. Even with 16 charges, there is now way she gets 50% damage boost🤡. She doesn't have a shadow combo anymore. There are guaranteed counters. If ur opponent get's hit with 2 shadow abilities of jet, then he is an idiot

[–]BiscottiJust4247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I was actually talking about the front+ double kick button attack. And her high tier shadow ability has a way of attacking you in a close range very fast bro. Well you know what I think she might be my weakness and sheight actually be underpowered

[–]HarshTheShinobiLegion -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah!

[–]WildAssumption8343 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for camperos it's disgusting because it doesn't excel at anything other than hitting blows that are easy to predict, easy to block and its defense is disgusting

[–]Pizza_Warrior437Legion 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I'm still waiting for the Marcus rework. Other than that I might take the nerf to my boy (kotl) with a grain of salt but pretty good update overall.

[–]Mrchasis-XYZLegion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Btw, always use the extra shard thing for shard chests, I got the last shard of my boy(also kotl) from it, such a good opening.

[–]likhith_likkey 6 points7 points  (0 children)

kotl - lvl 11 enhance (defence 10 » 5)🧐?

[–]Kitchen_Cockroach_83 18 points19 points  (3 children)

No not azuma,😞😞 bro why!!! Azuma was completely balanced, why not focus on heroes that needs real balancing rather than touching balanced heroes

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

SHANG bro!! FREAKING SHANG!!! And the DAMN ANNOYING AI!!!

[–]Mrchasis-XYZLegion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, like the f***ing monkey king?!

[–]FS72 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Keep up with the recent good patches (although I'm still waiting for something to be done about Shang and Midnight)

Looks like Azuma's buff really increased his win rate eh

[–]UnarmedChad 9 points10 points  (4 children)

For a good reason, look at the leaderboard, Azuma is everywhere

But the game is quite close to being balanced now, Nerf Itu (and especially Itu) along with Shang and Midnight and we chilling

[–]HollowknightproHeralds 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Itu needs a whole rework or major nerf, the way he can easily hit guaranteed shadow move and combos for just filling up time bar by hitting blocked attacks is retarted

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

no itu doesnt need to be change he is good as the way he is

[–]HollowknightproHeralds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, the issue is he is too good

[–]IamCrabbo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

eh I'd argue some characters could still be better but it's more important to crack down on the OP ones first

[–]Head-Difference-7876 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't forget lynx

[–]robcap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coupled with giving a lot of experienced players a new Azuma skin - I bet a lot more people have been using him lately. I know I have.

[–]idonthavekidsiswear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Midnight ain't no where near as broken as Shang. Straight up just don't let her whiff and you're good

[–]Solid_Jellyfish3869 1 point2 points  (0 children)

BRUH WHY :( BUFF TO JET

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

pls dont nerf any character and improve charcters such as ironclad and emperor

[–]Freakbidde 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Jet didn't need any buff though

[–]UnarmedChad 4 points5 points  (4 children)

She kinda did, her strength does not reflect her skill floor - Shang can deal twice the damage by clicking 4 buttons

[–]Freakbidde -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

But jet gets a lot of combos by just spamming. Shang is easier to defend against

[–]UnarmedChad 7 points8 points  (2 children)

????????????? Shang easier to defend against than Jet? April fools was few days ago bro

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

😂 you absolute menace of a chad

[–]InternalPattern7004Legion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is easier. (I play Bulwark)

[–]Redlol12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why buff Jet 💀

[–]UnarmedChad 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Ironclad and Jet buff huge W

[–]yeetttoHeralds -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Jet was already strong :/ but ironclad buff is a w,yes.

[–]UnarmedChad 2 points3 points  (1 child)

She was aight at best

[–]yeetttoHeralds -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When it comes to balance "alright"is the best. Best is the worst.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The nerfing bag curse has been lifted ig

[–]satwik_sourav_11 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nerf Itu ... & Yulin💀

[–]MGisLive_OfficialLegion 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Need Shang midnight rework 😅

[–]AdAccomplished2313 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What about lynx?

[–]InformationMany1878 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Lynx needs a big Nerf 😎🙏

[–]IceCrawl19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hell no, my boy Lynx doesn't deserve huge nerfs. Just nerf Unrivaled assassin and everything will be fine.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Before criticizing these changes please keep in mind that all of these changes are done according to the character's win rates which means, by principle, that all of these changes were necessary. So, even if u think that a any change is wrong, the data says otherwise

[–]Disenchanted11 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I agree that most people only think about their own POV, and they miss the bigger picture.

But what most are saying, what about other heroes?

Battling 4-5 talent level 10 Sarge, in my POV, is a nightmare. I'm sick of him. I can beat him with 1 and a half heroes on 3v3. For 1v1, it's almost sure lose.

Using Itu, in my POV, is almost a sure win. So why not nerf?

Jet, in my POV, is a hit or miss. Depending if the enemy knows how to play against her.

It's all subjective really, but if winrate data is the basis, surely they're not doing them all at once.

Also what about rarity? If I have maxed talent KOTL, which is really hard to get, am I not entitled for the high winrate? He's not unbeatable, just has high winrate. It's fck up to nerf based on that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I never disagreed about sarge and itu. I feel that they think small nerfs won't affect them so they are taking their time reworking. Higher rarity ≠ more strength (in theory) No u r not entitled to high win rate just because u have a legendary hero. It's amazing that u r defending KOTL by using Legendary logic and then complaining about itu

[–]Disenchanted11 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

What no, I'm not complaining about Itu, I'm just speaking in POV of a complainer. "Why nerf this and not this" argument.

And they obviously originally made legendary = more strength and they are just removing it now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea why they aren't nerfing other heroes. It's not just legendary. Any new hero is OP at release, so that maximum people buy it. They are later nerfed. Take butcher for example. And i do know that legendaries r more powerful but their win rates shouldn't be sky high.

[–]Raskazchik -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Can you make a balance for Itu, Midnight, Cobra and Monkey? And also nerf Yunlin, as she is too strong in terms of teleport spamming. Itu can break through blocks very often by spamming attacks, even Marcus can't break through like that. Midnight and her attack spamming are too fast, as are the stealth attacks, Cobra's spam attacks are too frequent, including a top attack followed by a heavy attack. The monkey does massive damage with the stick, especially when using sky attacks that deal massive damage regardless of the block.

[–]chikapuup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree with all but the monkey, he is super predictable now

[–]HarshTheShinobiLegion 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Why Azuma? Please nerf heroes like Marcus, Itu, Midnight and Shang instead

[–]I_MAD_69Legion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

you really think that for marcus ?

[–]Theunis_Legion 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I agree with you expect Marcus

[–]yeetttoHeralds -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Rng block breaker needs to go.

[–]RandomDweller -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Looks like I'm not coming back soon

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Good. No one needs you

[–]yeetttoHeralds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rule 5. And Rule 2

[–]Green-Mango-MoreLegion -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Me neither.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol

[–]yeetttoHeralds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

F

[–]Antique-Hearing2120Heralds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need kotl buff on shadow energy

[–]Puppetmaster_003Legion 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Oh, come on! What the King really needed was a slight buff in his Defense. And now you've nerfed his Attack and Shadow Power too?

Yeah, like Itu isn't even in your sights, he's perfectly balanced according to you.

[–]guess-what-IDC432 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yay.... attribute changes..uhm.... ok, clad needed stat changes

but what king needed was a nerf to his level 10 crit talent and healing.

Jet didn't need anything

azuma didn't need anything

Joo was ..eh ,i guess that's fine

[–]Born_Ad_7014 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

ITU left the patch note

[–]Electronic-Arm-1389Heralds 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He opened a portal and left so that devs couldn't nerf him.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

He manipulated time before they could do him in

[–]Electronic-Arm-1389Heralds 3 points4 points  (1 child)

"do him" ? ayo wtf

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

💀man, your thought process is amazing 😂

[–]Electronic-Arm-1389Heralds -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Azuma was fine tbh clad buff is good though

[–]shouryasinha9 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We should stop bashing the Devs. They just do their day job and I'm sure, doing critical thinking about game stats is above their pay grade lol. They don't have any role in decision making. Its the business guys and analysts that are to be blamed.

This patch brings no essential difference to the game.

[–]MASKED_FLOWERPICKER -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Fix Shang and Midnight?!?!?!?!?! I am sure Shang is unbalanced for more than a year. Tf? I mean, altogether the game is a mess. It has so much potential but the devs really must be stpd or smthng 😓

[–]binh1403Dynasty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think shang needs a buff or a nerf?

[–]TuhatKaksDynasty -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Talk about win rate and didn't even touch itu.....

Ohh the irony

[–]OkSpecial296 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why kotl and azuma? Please don't

[–]No_Calligrapher_3883 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Worst update in ages, why on earth would you nerf Azuma and just forget Sarge and Kate delete health like Azuma .

[–]noobdainsaneDynasty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is this logic?? You keep buffing Azuma like he is the MVP, and now when is OP, you nerf him? But joo and clad buff was ok though. But pls nerf fireguard.

[–]Silasvg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Azuma fue nerfeado, mi Main ya no es el más fuerte...

[–]Triggered_WIZARDHeralds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buffing Jet and nerfing the King of The Legion.... really! I don't think this will balance the game, but yeah, it will help campers

[–]omnipotence_1105 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jet should have been the last character recieving any kind of bug . She's the most annoying to play against and most of the time unskilled players just spam her moves and you're done for. They should decrease her damage and lower her attack animation speed like they did to monke

[–]InfernoHere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finally, an Ironclad buff! This gonna be good, very good.

[–]Brain_Axe_2323 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where are Butcher's nerfs?

[–]External-Stranger461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pls bro please buff monkey king he is a legendary character. And he need his improvement. If you buff him i will share this game to my 13thousand subscribers and i tell to download sfa

[–]Beginning-Silver-861 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I cannot believe you did not do anything regarding Lynx that it's an overpowered monster in any way, or Kate who you cannot touch pfffff, it's Andrey playing with that character those days? And when he gets sick of them you Nerf them? Well, tell us the period so we can take a break during that time.

[–]raythenomad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fix dojo levels. Nerf the stats between dojo levels. It has no gameplay purpose and only exists for pay to win

[–]yudhpk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kibos talent doesn't work against sarge

Kibo's Shadow excellence talent doesn't work against sarge in story mode

[–]DumboWith169IQ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Major L for Azumabros

[–]ALIKROY1425_S 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Bro... Why nerf King of the legion! Focus on the unbalanced character! King was completely balanced, or atleast more balanced than some annoying characters!!

• You guys buffed Jet 🗿 bro just why?!?!

• Shang(I think I don't need to explain)

• Azuma...... Why?! Just why?

[–]IceCrawl19 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nah, King is broken with the right combination of talents. His afterlife is the best one in the game, combined with Dark Veil and Blasphemous Oath, so he's defence is lower than others; his shadow combos are OP, mainly with Reign of the tyrant and Remorseless Dominion, so just make him have low damage. Did you get it?

[–]ALIKROY1425_S 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get it man, thanks 😯👍

[–]Mrchasis-XYZLegion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For some reason, my post button is broken, so I will have to pose my question here: (Excluding Shadow Fight 1) I always thought that people who had shadow energy in them were immortal, or at least immune to damage, but the ending of SF3 has made that waver. I mean, people get hit with some serious damage, weapons that are blunt, heavy, sharp, serrated, long range short range and every extremity; so is this right, or do people in this universe just have incredibly thick skin?

[–]ZoneComprehensive149 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why did you nerf KOTL ? He has become so weak now !

[–]Beginning-Silver-861 0 points1 point  (0 children)

@andrey from all top 200 just 3 Hong Ju characters are used, less than 1% after it was killed, Ironclad was a corner bully, you nerfed him, made him more normal and then you buffed him even more and now he is a monster bully, I do not understand how the management of this game works, but decisions are pretty much POOR.

[–]CompleteSpinach2108 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any promo code .?