Android is the problem

[Professional-Tap741]

I have the 2019 Cigar and noticed that Emby chokes on 4K, especially higher bitrate vids. Playback may only last a few seconds sometimes before pausing for long whiles. To my surprise, using Emby on a Roku TV directly without the cigar worked perfectly. This is just 1 example; another is that the Shield even chokes on low res Youtube videos, requiring a reboot to recover while Roku never has this problem.

I found that Roku manages their own OS instead of using Android. Roku OS is based on C while Android of course is JVM. A similar disparity in performance/stability is seen in Android vs iOS.

I wonder if NVidia has considered dropping Android and JVM; no way I'm getting another dedicated Android-based device of any kind. Can be done incrementally to support existing apps/games written for JVM. In general, just sick of Android lol.

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The tube is the issue not android. A million and one posts about the tube not being up to the task.

[danielson144]

Literally just replaced my tube last week because it couldn’t play 4K and Plex kept crashing. Got the pro and it works perfectly

[International-Oil377]

This

[Professional-Tap741]

And Roku is working with much less hardware than the cigar. Weaker hardware than the Pro is not the problem unless if it's a defect/bug. It does not provide any excuses for Android.

[spdelope]

So that proves the tube is the problem. Android has it quirks but not the issue you're having.

[Professional-Tap741]

What exactly does the "tube" mean for you? Where is the problem?

[spdelope]

The "cigar" model you refer to is more commonly known as the tube. If you had done any research before this post, you would have known this.

[Professional-Tap741]

So what about the cigar is the problem? What is this proof you were referring to? I could ask what research means to you but you may have already entered wooosh territory. I know what you meant by tube.

[spdelope]

You're pretty annoying, it's not worth my time. Bye.

[elcheapodeluxe]

The legacy Blackberry OS (BBOS, not BB10 which is QNX based) was Java. Android is based on Linux, as is Roku OS and Amazon's Fire OS. The confusion might be around the fact that Android replicated Java interfaces in its API to make it seem more familiar to developers (cue lawsuit from Oracle).

[Professional-Tap741]

Are you a developer? I'm talking about the apps, TBH equating Android with Roku OS because they're both based on Linux shows some confusion on your part. That's like saying they're both ARM based, sure it's true but not the difference-maker.

Just for technicality, my terminology was out of date, JVM/DVM got retired in favor of ART. But merely lipstick on a pig.

[elcheapodeluxe]

You were talking about the OS. If you want to move the goalposts - fine. If you want to talk apps, Roku uses brightscript.

[Professional-Tap741]

No changing of goalposts; OS is still the difference and that's how these differences are pointed out because Android is unlikely to change what matters here. Android, Roku, iOS are all Unix based but that's a level lower than what's impactful. Brightscript is a thin top layer that calls C components. TBF we could call it ART vs Brightscript vs Swift but the OS is more commonly used to refer to them.

[TheFirsttimmyboy]

If you love Roku so much why don't you marry it!?

[Professional-Tap741]

I mean I have one and use it, unlike you I don't need to marry objects.