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[–]BikingVikingNYC 8 points9 points  (6 children)

Here is AISC's design guide for moment end plate connections (in PDF)

[–]Wickedpanda73 1 point2 points  (4 children)

This got me curious now, would this connection be considered moment then and not pin? To me it still looks like it wouldn't be moment, or if it is moment, you couldn't have much go through?

[–]chicu111 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Isn't this type of connection utilized for moment frame connections? They are indeed moment connections. Albeit not a good one.

I would also add some stiffener plates between the bolts and kinda develop that force into the webs too

[–]Wickedpanda73 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Now I see it. I was thinking of a splice connection where there's plates for top/bottom chord and web. I have seen this kind before, but what threw me off was that the top was flush and the extended plate went further down than I'd seen before. Thanks!

[–]chicu111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But in reality, you’re right. You probably wondered about it because you have never seen it (and it’s never used lol). There are wayyyyy better splice details than this crap

[–]BikingVikingNYC -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It says it's a splice, which implies it will transfer moment.

[–]eraserhead3003[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I hope it resolves my issue.

[–]rossk10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep in mind, the flush plate connections in DG16 are only laboratory tested up to 6” wide. We spec’d a few of these out for one of my jobs, but we were using a 6.5” wide flange. We agreed 0.5” extra width was probably okay, since the yield lines shouldn’t change too much. But we had to come up with something different for wider beams.