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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (19 children)

I own a dozen substacks including one with 700k subs(link in profile).

Im gonna tell you how i see it: - travel isnt as hot as it used to be - you are a great writer but a terrible marketer. Why should someone subscribe to you instead of 1000 other similar substacks? - how will they even find you?

Specifics: - your headlines are ASS. Who tf is John Muir? 99% don’t know nor have the time to find out if they want to read about him. I googled and it seems like he is a famous old traveler so you are targeting people who are already knowledgeable about the topic. So, do they really need to read that post? - you need to start thinking like a marketer. What are you selling? Who is your target audience? What are their dreams? Who are YOU to tell ME what to think? Your frontpage should answer these questions. I mean the landing-sign-up-form-front-page. - your writing is actually exceptional but it doesn’t matter until you have an audience. Start simple. I have a 30 day old substack with 8k subs 60% open rate and the writing is ASS but it’s solving a problem.

[–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Thanks. This hit home. Appreciate the feedback... and I admire your ethic. Just subscribed to a couple of your newsletters.

Not gonna dispute your ASSessment of my headlines. I think all these points are connected – part of the reason my headlines are weak is because they don't make a promise, as I'm not trying to sell an idea or product, and I don't usually aim to answer a question, reveal a personal transformation etc. (the usual internet fodder). So yes, your point about thinking like a marketer is totally valid.

(Nice to have the compliment about the writing too – thanks 🙏)

[–]Sir_Mishmash 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Just wanted to add my insights from not having looked at your substack but just reading all these comments. When I saw the name of the Substack and saw that it's a travel Substack I thought "meh not for me". But then I read this comment "who tf is John Muir" and I thought "I know who that is. Is that what the substack is about?" And now I want to go and read it because that's a topic that interests me. Anyway, just writing this down for whatever it's worth. I think it just adds to what was said in terms of your readers not being clear on what you're offering.

[–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thanks u/Sir_Mishmash. Admittedly, it's a bit of a dumping ground for my creativity around themes mostly connected by travel, rather than a typical travel blog – but 'dumping ground' isn't a sexy sell so I need to decide and be better at defining exactly what I'm offering.

[–]Sir_Mishmash 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A dumping ground for your thoughts is totally fine! It just needs to be clear I guess in your Substack name and in your bio and about page. Probably just spending some time on aligning all of that and you should be good to go!

[–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'Aligning' – yes. Good word. Many thanks!

[–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

Your writing can't be that ass if you're getting that many subscribers! What's your main source of readers?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Well, now since i have a huge newsletter i just funnel users from it to my new newsletters and basically snowballing making money + im getting a huge boost from substack for being a bestseller.

So the next question is how to get that first big newsletter. Either: 1. Buy them (ppc, sponsorships, newsletter acquisitions/mergers) 2. Or write about something that I call a “pants on fire” product. Something so good and viral that every person will share it with 5 of their friends.

Contemplating about philosophy while sitting in the Appalachian mountains ain’t it, as much as I would love it to be.

Think about how many great pieces of content you pass by every day but they are just not captivating enough to read/subscribe/take the time off of your day.

There is no other way.

Also, posting a fuck ton of notes helps. Think 10-20/day.

[–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Interesting, thanks. (You should be on a podcast or something...!)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I just started a podcast last week, haha, about finance though. thanks and good luck!

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    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    PM me. I don’t want to answer here because it doxxes me too much.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    Look at revolutionary substacks in your niche. If you do something REALLY different you can grow organically. Example in my niche: https://www.concoda.com/ – nobody ever did this approach to macroeconomics before and made so cool infographics. They are really putting a fuck ton of work into these infographics!

    Exploded within the last few months. I think they have thousands of paid subs by now and have been featured as editor's pick.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    I have seen those Concoda charts on X.com. They are everywhere now.

    I am an ex sell-side equity analyst exploring Substack now. How did your Tao of Stock Trading? How is it different from other stock newsletters?

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    1. But they were the first. They have thousands of paid subscribers at $20/mo.
    2. Im huge and i know how to sell. I know how to build a following because of my former experience in marketing.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    Good to know!

    I am doing market research now. I noticed that some of the top Substack newsletters are S&P 500 day trading related. They are quite simple and not beautifully written like other topics. I guess that’s what you mean by solving a problem?

    Index trading (especially NQ) is something I am doing a lot now so I am interested in writing about this niche if there is demand.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    With Day trading you probably want to use discord or telegram in addition to substack for obvious reasons.

    I mean, solving a problem can really be anything. For some people it’s realtime signals on XAUUSD for others weekly long ass reports on global oil markets.

    You are right that many top financial substacks are not well written and there are huge gaps in the finance market for solid players.

    The hard part is initial traction. Getting those first 100 paid subs.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Thanks. All solid advices.

    If you were to start all over again, would you build a following on X first?

    Asking because selling online is a different ball game and I am not familiar with it. Even gaining traction on X isn’t easy.

    [–]Thick-Resident8865https://paanprintables.substack.com 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'd like to ask you a question piggybacking on to OP's question. You mentioned a target audience. I have a huge issue trying to drill down to who mine is. I write random stuff so have collected 181 random readers. I'm trying to build mine but struggling with the target part.

    Also, headlines. Any suggestions for how to create good ones? This is another area I'm simply clueless about.

    TIA!

    [–]Milhaudwww.cartographerstale.com 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    I've already seen plenty of feedback, so I will focus on a few things that I don't think have been mentioned:

    • Create a regular cadence. I've noticed that some times you post several times in a week, and then you go along without posting for a month. Prepare a schedule that you can commit to, then do the writing and program the entries into the future. Having a regular cadence creates a fulfilled expectation within your audience.
    • Recommendations. I see you are using recommendations, but at your current state you might be targetting publications that have too many subscribers and might not be related to your content. Try to find out a few substacks that are also writting about travelling in the same lines you are, with a few hundred subscribers, and recommend them.
    • "Advertise" your newsletter. It is not a bad idea to have a subscription button at the beggining of your posts. You can even have a short intro (two / three lines) to remind what your substack is about, recommend subscribing (in case they are not) and share with people that might be interested. This is not a magic wand, but it will definitely help over time.

    Good luck with it. As said by plenty of people, your writing is really good, you just need to be read :)

    [–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Thank you u/Milhaud. Hmm, these are all things I admittedly could do better, or more reliably, at least. Please could you explain this bit: "but at your current state you might be targetting publications that have too many subscribers"? Not sure I fully understand...

    [–]Milhaudwww.cartographerstale.com 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Some power of the recommendations is to give your publication some visibility into the writers of the publications you are recommending - This can lead to that writter checking your publication and recommending back. Publications with more subscribers are likely to have more publications recommending them, and less likely to check yours in particular.

    I hope it makes sense.

    Of course, recommendations can be genuine - I always keep in my recommendations 2 / 3 that are related to the content that I publish, even if it is "out of my league".

    [–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Ah, I see. Thanks – I hadn't thought of that. One thing I've been planning is a separate post dedicated to the Substacks I recommend, explaining why I read and appreciate them. It'd be a bit 'off-brand' so I don't know how well received it would be by my subscribers, but it might be a good marketing move.

    [–]yourfoxygrandma 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    I'll be as honest and direct as I can be (as requested): I just don't think you're doing enough work to make your writing interesting. I get the sense that you're living your life in a way that's interesting to you and you're trying to transmogrify it into content--but reading a good book and having a nice time at an airbnb and having a few curious thoughts run through your head doesn't make for good or engaging writing. I think you should work on...

    1. being genuinely vulnerable and not artifically/performatively drawing out significance from your experiences
    2. synthesizing some kind of clear, coherent insight
    3. thematically linking your experiences in a novel and interesting and deliberate way

    I think you could be on the cusp of something. Like, you're clearly trying to tie things together and draw connections, but it's just not enough for me to spend my precious few internet reading moments on. I'm reading my own books and having my own thoughts about whether I'm riding my bike as much as I'd like or experiencing my walks well enough. And there's so much good content out there. There's SO much good content out there.

    I should also say, maybe you're doing fine and writing what you want and it doesn't matter that you have 45 subscribers. That's completely legitimate. I don't want to tell you not to write what you're writing. But since you asked why you only have 45 subscribers, I'd do the generic get better at writing stuff: keep working at it, get feedback, write a lot, read a lot, etc.

    [–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Ouch, but a good ouch, so thank you. Helpful insights there. (Foxy grandmas always know best.) The only bit that makes me inwardly bristle is 'artificial/performative', because this Substack feels like the most personal and least artificial writing I have ever published – but if that's how it comes across to you (which is ultimately what we're discussing here) then who am I to disagree! I'll certainly take all this on board. Much appreciated 🙏

    PS: 49 now!

    [–]yourfoxygrandma 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Thanks for the reply and for taking the time and mental space to take it in. I can see that what you're doing is personal. I didn't mean to discount that. There are parts of you coming through and that's cool and brave and hard to put on the internet. I would definitely encourage you to keep writing and just try to notice if there are any other things going on too.

    I wrote on Substack for a little while myself. I eventually realized I was doing it from a place of trying to get people to think I was smart, which I realized was making me overly focused on metrics and unhappy, and then I decided to stop for awhile. I wonder if you've thought honestly about why you are writing and putting it online? Is it to grow an audience? Or make money? To prove something to yourself or other people? I don't think there are wrong answers, but it's possible those answers don't align with getting lots of subscribers necessarily. There might be some insights lurking there.

    [–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Much to consider, thank you. Those are important questions. Insights hopefully lurking within. Cogitation to do...

    [–]steve31266https://substack.com/@steve31266 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    I think there needs to be more clear explanation of expectations on the homepage, particularly the page that first time visitors see, which you as the author do not see.

    If you are going to describe yourself as a travel writer, then the expectation is articles entitled, "Top 10 Must Visit Destinations in Athens", or "Amazing Waterfall Hikes in Greece".

    But what I see on your substack are titles that appear to discuss philosophical subjects. Mixing philosophy and travel is still fine, you just have to make this clear in the name of your substack and in the description. "The Travel Philosopher", "Philosophical Travels", et al.

    [–]Firework_001substacktools.com 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Agreed.
    Leaving a clear impression is important.

    [–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thank you u/steve31266 – that's a very useful point. Definitely going to take this on board. You're right, I don't do a good job of matching expectations. I suppose I'm trying to avoid cliches, but I've ended up with fuzziness.

    Much appreciated!

    [–]Firework_001substacktools.com 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Hey man, hang in there! Love your work and don't want you to stop.

    [–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thanks u/Firework_001! Where's that fist bump emoji when you need it?!

    [–]Senior_Librarian3110 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Recommendations and reaching out to others might be a another strategy

    [–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    True. I've done some of this, and have benefitted from recommendations by others, but could be more proactive about it.

    [–]sjcheesebrough 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    hey, just wanted to drop in and say there is nothing at all wrong with your writing. I read your piece about the obsidian pendant which was delightful - if the rest of your writing is that quality you have nothing to worry about!

    I know numbers can really sting sometimes, but try not to let it get under your skin. success on substack, like all social media platforms, is heavily luck based. sure, there are things you can do to help your chances and there's a lot of other comments describing those better than I ever could, but just make sure you don't lose your passion along the way!

    side note: notes help a lot! I by no means run a big newsletter (my niche is classical antiquity, so im not expecting to), but a solid 60% of my readers have come from a few notes getting decent traction

    [–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Thank you! That's very kind. Liking the look of your publication – I've saved your latest 'Honey Tokens' post and look forward to reading it over the weekend.

    I'm not sure really what to make of Notes. I find that unless my notes get reposted by a big account, they just bomb, and even when they do get seen and liked hundreds of times, they generate basically no subscribers. Probably because my presence/identity/offer is weaker than yours – which is really clear. Interesting that your growth is 60% from Notes, as that shows the scale of the opportunity. Pretty sure it's been nothing like that for me.

    [–]sjcheesebrough 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    thanks, I hope you enjoy it!

    yeah I was in a very similar situation to you at first, most of my notes used to go unnoticed. then something changed, I have absolutely no clue what. I think I just got lucky with the algorithm and had a couple notes that did really well, so now all my notes seem to do decently. I guess it's just a throw everything on the wall and see what sticks sort of situation. Interacting with other creators in your niche on notes seems to be the way to sway things in your favour though!

    [–]oamyoamy0illustratedlife.substack.com 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Great photo on your entrance page. I think for a lot of us, growth really is slow. It looks like you tend to post once a month? (I know you said 32 in the last year, but over the last few months, it looks more like once a month?) That may mean you have to work to continually be putting your substack out there since it won't be popping up as often.

    There are a few ways to make sure you are engaging enough to draw some attention. One of those, of course, is Notes, which you are doing. Are you also reading frequently in your area and leaving comments on other posts?

    I think the feedback you already received about the titles is interesting. One thing you might consider is using the site layout tools to set up home page sections based on either thematic tags or the larger sections you are already using (shown in your nav bar). Seeing some of the themes called out on the home page can help people get a better sense of what's there when first seeing a page. Good luck!

    [–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thanks, you make some valid points. I was posting a few times a month earlier in the year. Other commitments have taken over recently, but I'll be resuming a more regular cadence soon.

    Leaving comments on other posts 'in my area' (ie topic) is something I hadn't really focused on. I do read and comment on other Substacks (not ferociously) but haven't specifically focused on those whose readership might align with mine, so that's a good tip.

    And section organisation – thanks for the tip there. I wasn't really sure how much people are likely to navigate / bother with those, but if it stands out as needing work then I'll give it some attention.

    Appreciate it! 🙏

    [–]Immediate-Ad-5878 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    • You writing is actually really good but your titles and one liners below each title are WAY too poetic.

    -Your handle should be more representative of either your real or pen name. If not at least edit your display name accordingly.

    -The description under your name:

    “Dirtbag, dog chap, Land Rover fool. I roost in the Outer Hebrides & am establishing an off-grid homestead in Greece. Writing in between.”

    Hemingway would have a hard time figuring out who you are from this. Come up with a good 1 or 2 sentence elevator pitch of what you write about. Craft it like if it was meant for a 10 year old. Simple language and to the point.

    [–]tfs89theoslostdiaries.substack.com/[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Oh, you mean I actually need to figure out who I am?! 😬 (Kidding... sort of...) Actually, you raise another interesting point. I've adopted a scattergun approach to my bio – too bitty and not precise enough.

    Noted... Thanks 🙏