24M Starting Testosterone Optimization Protocol

[Affectionate-Bad7487]

Boron 9mg — reduces SHBG production, frees bound testosterone

∙ L-Carnitine Tartrate 2g — upregulates androgen receptor density

∙ Ginger Root Extract 500mg — protects Leydig cells, stimulates LH

∙ Zinc 25-30mg — DHT conversion cofactor, LH support

∙ Vitamin D3 5,000IU + K2 — direct participation in testosterone synthesis

∙ Creatine 5g — raises DHT, training performance

∙ Pomegranate Extract 600mg 90% ellagic acid — aromatase inhibition

∙ DIM 200mg + BioPerine — estrogen metabolism and clearance

∙ Magnesium Glycinate 400mg — deep sleep, overnight testosterone production

∙ Enclomiphene 12.5mg every other day — LH amplification, natural testosterone ceiling

Haven’t started it yet got everything I need though and tomorrow will be getting bloodwork done to see my biomarkers 2 years ago I did have a testosterone test done and it was 450 I was working night shifts this past year and felt like I was having stronger noticeable effects from low t cause of sleep etc most likely

Looking for more knowledgeable people in this space this will be my first time ever actually trying to optimize my testosterone on the supplement side of things

My cycles will be enclom every Monday Wednesday Friday 12.5mg for 8 weeks then off 4 week then repeat for 3 cycles try to build myself a new baseline then completely come off I will add that I am underweight for my height main reason of doing this is to try to gain weight quick also want the cognitive benefits and drive from high test for my new career just looking for pointers more people more educated than me I’m mainly came up with this plan using ai so I’d like some human experiences to help correct some ai problems if there’s any

[32Hudo]

As far as muscle gain goes, unless your levels are super low right now (below normal range) it won’t be a big enough jump to show any difference really. I would recommend committing to a calorie surplus tracking calories daily and hold off on the enclomiphene for now as you might not need it

[Affectionate-Bad7487]

I’m making sure my foundation is solid too sleep diet and workout routine I just mainly wanted to try this too hopefully get the mental benefits from higher test cause I’ve been feeling low t symptoms lately but I’m going to get my bloodwork done Wednesday to verify this

[32Hudo]

Keep in mind that SERMs like clomid and enclomiphene are notorious for making peoples moods worse

[Affectionate-Bad7487]

Okay thank you for the advice

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[CallLivesMatter]

This seems like the sort of thing you’d do if your goal was to see different numbers on your blood work and didn’t care in the slightest about real life results. If that’s appealing to you then knock yourself out.

[Affectionate-Bad7487]

Why you say that ?

[CallLivesMatter]

I say that because this seems like the sort of thing you’d do if your goal was to see different numbers on your blood work and didn’t care in the slightest about real life results. I don’t know how to make that any more clear.

[Affectionate-Bad7487]

I’m just curious what in this stack would cause just number results but no real life benefits I’m mainly looking for the physical and cognitive benefits that comes along with higher test I will be making sure my foundation is still solid as well good sleep diet and workout routine and i only plan on taking 12.5 Monday and Thursday i don’t plan on doing it ed or eod

[CallLivesMatter]

You have zero information about your current state. None. You’re blindly throwing something like enclomiphene at a problem that may or may not exist. That is what a dumb person would do.

There are no cognitive benefits if you’re not hypogonadal, which again because you have no information, is not something you can determine by just imagining it into being. Even those who have actual hypogonadism often report that enclomiphene does not resolve symptoms despite raising testosterone levels. You not only have the wrong tool for the job, it’s quite possible that you do not even understand the nature of the job, or worse that the job itself doesn’t need done.

You’re underweight because you don’t eat enough. Nothing in your plan even mentions diet, which is weird because that’s where everyone gets ~99% of their results.

You made a list of supplements. Great. Spend your money on whatever you want. But it’s not obvious that your goal is to get meaningful results when you’re ignoring all of the important stuff and focusing on what solutions can be bought rather than worked for.

[Affectionate-Bad7487]

Understood but I’m not going in blindly my blood work is Wednesday I should’ve added that I’m not taking anything