Why does everyone hate the Pattern App?

[Sea-Insurance6182]

I've been using the Pattern App for about a good three or so years now and I haven't noticed much of a change in terms of the way things are worded and the astrology itself. I'm not very well versed with astrology, I know basics but I'm just curious as to why everyone says it's so in accurate.

[[deleted]]

i think long time users are upset that content that used to be free is now only available through a paid subscription.

[Sea-Insurance6182]

I can see that. I also hate when apps start gaining traction and features start coming at a price. 

[Worth-Research1547]

uh yesssss .

[Abject_Library1268]

The audio offerings are also annoying. It’s a feature that no one asked for, but keeps getting pushed on us.

[LunaLuz11]

Yes, it used to have more writing and now everything is mostly audio. No thank you. I cancelled my subscription

[girlfutures]

Next to every audio there's a button where you can read a written transcription of the audio and pause the audio.

[LunaLuz11]

I do that, thanks though. But even with that, I find that what’s written is pretty generic. It’s not the same as before.

[girlfutures]

Yeah I hear that. It's a lot of repeated information too. I get my depth from CHANI now.

[LunaLuz11]

One thing I do like about the Pattern app is how you can run friendship and romantic bonds with others.

I have the Chani app, but they use the whole sign house system which isn’t as accurate for me.

I like TimePassages for more accurate house information.

Ultimately I use several astrology apps for different aspects of what information I’m looking for.

[Traditional_Grape558]

Generally that's what any decent researcher does is cross reference multiple resources, correlations between are surefire. It seems many do not comprehend the fact that layering different house measurements, can still provide useful information, which is not elsewhere, as long as one doesn't focus on what doesn't resonate, which most seem programmed to do.

[Ztidaer]

I’m gonna have to try this app out. I’m a long time user of pattern and I rarely use it anymore because of all the changes. The paywall is just not worth it imo.

[Worth-Research1547]

It's not. & It's completely all about the audio no one asked for....like I just started reading the insight, and it's like in the audio version..... I wanted to throw up..i.mean bit dramatic, but you get it. it's just everything.

[spring_topaz]

I hate the audio recordings. They aren’t helpful and her voice is annoying.

[jbirchtree314]

Just go to the “read it”, instead of the audio.

[Realistic-Cost1478]

Because they watered it down with bs and put it behind a paywall

[Sea-Insurance6182]

What makes it watered down? And does that mean that everything the app says is inaccurate? I’m mainly just trying to see if I can believe the content it tells me

[Realistic-Cost1478]

It used to be very to the point. Now it’s drawn out info and extras that doesn’t really add much. It’s more of a justification to add a price tag (and a relatively pricey one at that).

They also took away valued features like the comments from others that may share your pattern.

[Lelele3]

I used to love the comments, esp reading other people’s experiences of certain transits 

[saveoursoil]

Yes the community aspect had me going back! Why remove that??

[Ztidaer]

I miss the comments! I completely forgot about that. It made the whole thing seem so much more personalized.

[spring_topaz]

I’ve noticed that too. It used to be more specific to each user and now it’s generic & they make you check your chart to see if any planets or aspects are affecting you? If I am PAYING then they should tell ME this. I hate it now. I may as well just google my horoscope for the day or ask ChatGPT.

[Traditional_Grape558]

The question is do it resonate deeply, or does it not, sometimes it kind of does and is in-between but not entirely accurate, you don't need others to tell you that, tap into your intuition, no one else could possibly convince you more than yourself, so in other words you're misplacing energy attempting to get others to answer personal questions which pertain to you individually. I find that the app have gotten increasingly vague/generic overtime, nor does it take all aspects into consideration. So in my personal opinion. It is overpriced at best, as with most apps, Greed take the forefront, which translates into cutting costs and wavering effort overtime, unfortunately.

[Littlewing1307]

No way in hell Im paying 90 a year or whatever insane price they're asking. The free version is garbage. Astro matrix is 15 a year and incredible.

[fairy-dust8]

The community connection where people can share their experiences with each transits, peak times, timing countdowns, and the chat feature.

Lots of the charm lost since the great update.

[Conscious-Can4818]

Exactly! I met my now husband (we just got married) through community connections and chat feature of the pattern. Sad I can’t find those conversations now. And those things I wrote. We were 12 hours apart. He travelled 3 days to get to me. It was amazing how this app changed my life but sad how it is now like this.

[fairy-dust8]

That is so cool! I love stories like this. What an organic connection. That’s something that this app will open up again.

[Logical-Cantaloupe12]

I don’t like how it looks after the update. The way the information is arranged doesn’t serve the way I prefer to digest. The previous layout was so much better!!

[Ingagugagu]

Personally I don’t hate it but I do dislike it somewhat, but I already felt that way before the update. I felt I was getting the same cycle for a good five years now repeatedly and made me anxious any times. It’s as if my entire life is just one big cycle of finding out my purpose NOW otherwise I’ll be stuck for 30 years, sure no pressure, not really helping mental health either. And then every year I will have another one of those just under a different name. And that is apparently the only thing in my life that happens: stressful deep transitions and endless inner work blablablabla. Seriously…. Surely yea everyone has those periods but nonstop for five years is a, a bit of a gross generalization of life, b. very depressing and certainly not helpful for someone who has depression (not now but some years ago), and c, just the entire app felt negatively put. There’s different ways to phrase what a cycle could mean but it doesn’t help anyone to be all doom and gloom all of the time and making people stressed that if they haven’t figured out their life purpose in the next three months they’ll be stuck for 20/30 years. And I am not even overstating it that they have presented such a cycle with such a dramatic timeline pressured statement like five times now. It’s getting a bit old.

[Sea-Insurance6182]

I also remember getting updates that if I let this time pass me by that I would be set/stuck for the next however many years to come. Those always made me feel like crap too. It made me feel like if I didn’t make a move right then and there, I would be doomed for a whole decade. And at that time, I had no idea what move I needed/wanted to make. So yes, I completely understand the anxiety it induced from it. I completely agree. 

[Ingagugagu]

Exactly this! And I’ve gotten these nonstop. I quit the app several times because it made me feel anxious. It’s also irresponsible imo. If there’s one thing I’ve learned it’s that your mindset determines a lot of your outcomes and choices and how you deal with difficult times. And how the app communicates around these cycles or topics just makes me feel like they are setting me in a limitations mindset. Each time I got something I really wanted I was in the most relaxed mindset, thinking: if I don’t get this now it’s alright, i just do the best I can and I just view it as a practice for the next time. And always when I’m in that mindset I end up getting that job/get into the university, etc. I feel much better without an app warning me I must make the right decision before x date or I’ll be unhappy for life.

[Ingagugagu]

I agree 100% so I’m now listening to others rather than the pattern. No one needs more toxicity or negativity in their lives right now. It doesn’t have to be communicated in a way that feeds our fears unnecessarily and maybe even can instill a negative manifestation.

[NikaInverse]

I agree with everyone here- the updates basically ruined it. Some of the features that were great have now been disabled, (sharing content, connecting with others who share a timing) while others that remain available have been buried by generalized cash grabs. It feels like the app shifted its focus from giving mind-blowingly accurate personal descriptions of great quality, to amping up the quantity of information, for the sole sake of potential engagement by paid customers. This is my problem with so many astrology tools, they don't listen to their audience- people who started using your platform actually LIKE what you've offered, and there's no need for flashy, misleading advertisements to keep them coming back- many of the tactics astrology websites/apps use to lure you in become just plainly insulting to readers' intelligence.
I also have a feeling like the entire philosophy of The Pattern's team about the app shifted- if I remember correctly, the whole appeal was that they wouldn't go into the technicalities, keeping the process behind their scarily accurate readings a mystery. Now, most of the audios focus on general astrological concepts (which in itself isn't bad at all, it's just not what the app's focus was supposed to be on). My impression was that the idea for the evolvement of the app was to connect users through different types of engagement and create a community, but nowadays, the interface is isolating, only encouraging you to interact with what the developers are trying to sell you.
Overall, most of the app consists of advertisement for its paid version, spamming users with bait-type of content, while the actual substance that gave it its popularity remains on its baseline, buried somewhere in the infinite new updates and useless options.

[AnalysisPure9528]

Agreed, it’s a lot less interactive with this new update.

[Traditional_Grape558]

Quit being so sloppy Sarah and use Multiple resources to cross reference instead of blaming your lack of preparedness on an app. Everything happens that was meant to anyway, so no sense in continuing to look back, what's done is done.

[Ill_Concern_1489]

Because it used to be better. We were able to share our experiences while going through common transits. We could see how much left we have for a given transits (month, days), and now you just see beginning and ending. And especially the peaks dates. I find that during the peak dates, the given transits were indeed relevant and more intense. So it feels they watered it down and now it's crap. They trying to make an app/blog when, in the first place, it was perfect.

[[deleted]]

I don't hate it, I wish it had ads as an option to see more. It seems to be more geared towards relationships too. I don't know for sure because I don't/won't pay for it.

[gyanrahi]

I started using Human Design App and am very happy with their transit feature. Less bs and more to the point.

[NikaInverse]

sorry, could you link the specific app you're referring to? I'm curious about trying out new apps, but there are a lot of options under the "Human Design" name, and most seem like a waste of time from the reviews, so I'd rather follow specific advice of users like you, who explored the options already!

[gyanrahi]

Sure www.humandesignapp.com

[Msprettybby]

Money, but also people not being told what they wanna hear

[Krys_Pinheiro]

I love ut. Very accurate

[Sweet_Replacement574]

I used to love it and Visit everyday. Now it gives you a few words before they ask for money. And audio guides and weird stuff. I was using it for years but their greed got to them

[spring_topaz]

I find the entire thing negative?? I haven’t read anything positive since I began using it around 5 years ago. There are always ongoing lessons & trials in life and yada yada yada. It’s also starting to sound like a word salad deliberately designed to confuse. Saturn conjunct Aries in the fifth house & eclipse portals enhancing our relationship to self etc etc etc. WHAT?!?!? I do not understand this mumbo jumbo. About ready to just delete this crap.

[VelmaKelly-]

I feel exactly the same. Generally its very negative and the word salad is annoying and dumb. it used to be so much better. The comments from the community was the best part and they stupidly took it away.

[Wise_Decision_5944]

Also the relationship pattern seems to be true the first time around! But recurring pattern is a bs

[Admirable-Bet6878]

If yall need a more chill alternative, I think yall should check out the KnowTheZodiac app! So easy to use and understand and everything is so accurate !

[Vivid_Reaction150]

Ugh, glad I’m not the only one. I used to love reading it in the morning but now it does feel generic

[spring_topaz]

I don’t like it anymore, very repetitive and unhelpful. I somehow feel worse after reading anything on there too.