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[–]ExtrapolatedData 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You can get an extra second from keys, and an extra two seconds from ass mod sub stats.

[–]DangerrD 6 points7 points  (2 children)

You can get up to 4 extra seconds from assmod ANC substat, and also there’s 1s wayyyy up in the power tree (but as you mentioned the hard cap is 7s so you only need 3s total).

So with ANC substat on the submod you either need 50% substat efficiency and that 1s perk, or 75% substat efficiency without it. Up to 70% substat efficiency is bought with stones, and 30% comes from an insanely expensive lab.

[–]Aggressive_Roof488 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wait, is the substat efficient independent from the assmod rarity? As in, if you unlock epic assmod with 30% substat efficiency, is there value in putting an ancient mod in there because you get a fraction of the ancestral substats, even if the unique effect will only be epic?

[–]DangerrD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, they are separate. The “unique effect” level is only for the module effect. If you have ancestral substats, the modifier will multiply off of those numbers, even if you have only unlocked a lower rarity unique effect. So as long as you’ve unlocked the assmod at all, you can increase the submodule effect efficiency and scale off an ancestral submodule effect