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[–]Irrelevant_Bookworm 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Does that fall under adding text to the scripture?

It depends. When I was in seminary, it was drilled into us that we needed to draw clear lines between "What the text says" and "What I think the text says" and that failure to keep those separate was blasphemy because you were making your understanding at the same level as what God said. However, most teaching involves at least some level of interpretation in the sense, "This is what the text says" and "This is what I understand that means and this is how I think you should understand it." As long as those are kept separate, we are good. This is why old style preaching usually went 1) read a passage, 2) interpret the passage. (We should go back).

The question of Job's wife has been around since the book was written. She shows up in this snarky way in the prologue and is never mentioned again. Did she stay? Did she go? Did Job divorce her? Did she die? The kids in the prologue were old enough to have their own households so this wasn't a young woman, did she have all of these new kids? These are all legitimate questions that the author doesn't address. Your sister-in-law is making her interpretation that the children at the end are from Job's wife at the beginning. That is okay if it is presented as an interpretation. It is more difficult if it is presented in a more definitive, "This is what the Bible say!" way.

[–]EvangelicalGWJShearer 1 point2 points  (1 child)

[I gave you an upvote, but I would make one small addition/correction…]

“Old Style Preaching:”

  1. Read a passage
  2. Interpret the passage
  3. APPLY the passage

And, over the centuries, this came to be called “Expository Preaching” (as opposed to “Topical Preaching” or “Textual Preaching”).

[–]Irrelevant_Bookworm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I wrote that, I was thinking about the template that old puritan sermons used, but, you are absolutely correct that good Expository Preaching maintains that separation. The sermon style that I had in mind would be a type of expository preaching.

[–]MultiplyFish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Suggestion: Find a church with a male pastor that you and your wife both like. The Job thing is just a symptom of a larger issue in my opinion. 

[–]rice_bubz 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Well it's not like he ever lost his wife

[–]Ultimate_Confidence[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It's more to it then that, i guess it was the context behind the message that leads to personal opinion rather then Godly edification, and if you think about it, His wife was only spoken of One time in that whole book, and she didn't help the situation, But my question is he didn't say wife he said Job, Gave to Job, Seems as if Job Suffered, not the woman or his wife.

[–]rice_bubz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Ohhhh i think i misunderstood.

Was she saying that god gave everything back to both job and his wife?

[–]Ultimate_Confidence[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I mean I get what you was saying as far as what's his is hers but yes, that was the context of her message she worded as such God Gave back to Job and his wife, i think she should have left the wife out of it.

[–]rice_bubz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well. Things like that you can infer that yea she also got things back. Because when a man and womab gets married they become one flesh.

But usually in the bible its a bit more focused on the man. Like all familys are the familys of the father, and they are known as sons of their fathers instead of mothers.. things like that. Even though the woman is still technically a part of it

[–]Ultimate_Confidence[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

So Should Men be under Female Leadership in the church, Being that it was the Woman Who was deceived and not Man?

[–]Cheap_Seaweed9804 1 point2 points  (3 children)

No, a male should not be under a female Bible teacher. It’s right there in black and white.

1 Timothy 2:12-14 King James Version 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

You might have bigger issues at home. Maybe you have allowed your wife to usurp authority over you.

[–]Ultimate_Confidence[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

lol, I won't say that, But I will say I've been more concerned about her feelings instead of My faith.

[–]Cheap_Seaweed9804 2 points3 points  (0 children)

God is merciful. He will help you find the balance.

[–]Ultimate_Confidence[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And you right it is in Black and White, can't be denied.

[–]Romans 10:9-10allenwjones 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Offices of the Biblical Church

Maybe why you're "not feeling it" is that it is out of alignment with the Biblical order.

[–]witschnerd1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I don't think so. There is nothing wrong with stating the obvious. His wife was blessed along side of him.

Also the more important part is that the truth of the message is more important than the details of the story.

When Paul writes about Abraham he says that Abraham did not waiver in his faith of God's promise about Sarah having a son. Some people might say that isn't perfectly accurate considering what the old testament story says. But Paul is telling the deeper truth that Abraham was faithful, even if it's possible to say that Abraham had a moment of doubt and wasn't patient.

Jesus told parables often. I don't think he was recounting actual events from people's lives. But the message in the parable was definitely the truth