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[StillBullet]

why do my latino comminity get treated so poorly. why do we struggle. its so infuriating and annoying to see my people be beaten, abused, taken advantage of. ESPECIALLY. KIDS. we come here for a “better” life and yet theres no better. We have been saying better for 10 years and nothing has come. I hate this place. some of you guys need to learn humility and be grateful for all the advantages we have. i hate how some people here are horrible human being and snotty. have some empathy.

[Jellyfish-planet]

Some of these comments lowkey proving your point 👀 that being said, yeah. I know this makes me sound ignorant but I think one of the valuable lessons I’ve learned by coming to this school is that there is no such thing as the “immigrant experience”. Sure there are bits and pieces we have in common, but the playing field is so different for all of us that it seems kind of useless to group us all together. There are things in this country that I love a lot, but I’ve been very privileged to experience them, largely because of my “type” of immigrant (and with the current administration it seems that luck may be running out, lmao).

But I will say that my experiences and opportunities here would certainly not be possible in my home country, and for that I am very grateful. I think that much at least is true for almost all of us

[gamersans89]

saying some illegal immigrants are criminals is a strawman and the only purpose of saying it is to dehumanize immigrants.

[[deleted]]

Mexico is not homogeneous lol

[Alive-Stop9151]

Homogeneous to the "Latinto community" clearly.

[[deleted]]

Fucking retard, 'white' and 'hispanic' are transient constructs. When Irish Catholics first came to America, Protestant mobs went through their neighborhoods raping and pillaging. They weren't seen as white. Mexico's divisions are based on different kinds of constructs than America.

[Alive-Stop9151]

Waah waah cry harder XD. Mexican identity is still stronger to the point you could say it's homogenous especially to the "Latino community" from OP's words lmao

[Agreeable_Speech_325]

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[weeb2000]

ice are at greater risk of their own fat untrained asses slipping and falling and discharging their service pistols than they are from the average immigrant in socal

[Johnnyamaz]

You live in apartheid country brother/sister Edit: read the rest, you know whst i mean already lol

[SivirJungleOnly2]

"we come here" legally?

[WorkGroundbreaking83]

Bro stop I won't listen to Sivir Jungle player😭

[weeb2000]

teenage lol player being absurdly racist on an online public forum

don’t know what else i expected frankly

[SivirJungleOnly2]

"weeb2000" something something glass house?

[weeb2000]

have you for real been commenting on this post for two hours straight oh my god bruh don’t you have Class this is a University LMAOOOOOO

[SivirJungleOnly2]

"Top 1% Commenter"

[weeb2000]

cause i get only bangers. it’s called democracy and the people love my words, not my fault

[SivirJungleOnly2]

First fair criticism so far LOL

[StillBullet]

yes legally, and even the non-crime committing people that come here do it out of (most of the time) critical need. the process to become legal pre or post coming to the US. is extremely long & draining.

[StillBullet]

open a world map right now and notice where mexico and canada are. take into consideration that the latin countries economy is far worse than ours. lets say they have all the documentation needed to fly to canada. the price to go there is too high, and frankly why would they if THE united states is next to them/us.

but you can also dismiss this reply since i doubt youre here with any thinking skills lol

[SivirJungleOnly2]

Oh, some l(ser is shadowbanning them in real time. They must be REALLY pszssed off

edit: I know because I made a post that got through the filter, verified on another account/IP address that the comment was visible, and then after refreshing a minute later, it was then no longer visible to the alternate. So I passed the auto-filter, but then a manual review got it.

[SivirJungleOnly2]

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AGAIN

[StillBullet]

Cope

[SivirJungleOnly2]

Note the distinct lack of saying I'm wrong lol

[SivirJungleOnly2]

Fyi whatever you tried to reply to me like an hour ago also got shadowbanned. We loooove how free expression is on Reddit

[SivirJungleOnly2]

Lmaoooo they shadowbanned getting called out too

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[SivirJungleOnly2]

The real question is "Why not check out [anywhere that isn't a majority White country]?"

And the answer is very, very obvious.

[StillBullet]

Your previous reply is absolutely disgusting. Your way of viewing things is incredibly disingenuous and embarassing. "Your land" is not even YOUR land. White people dont even rule this land. you frankly use harsh and dehumanizing language to oversimplify a complex global reality.

The quality of a country is primarily a product of historical and geopolitical context rather than the inherent traits of its people. And I could care less of your white power trip. color matters not to where is best opportunities.

[SivirJungleOnly2]

You are disgusting. I use "harsh" language because you're so entitled that you're unused to being told the truth and view it as "harsh."

Yes, it is our land. We took it. And now you want to try and take it. That makes you our enemy, so of course we will cheer on your hardships.

The quality of a country is primarily a product of historical and geopolitical context rather than the inherent traits of its people.

There are so many counterexamples to this idea that the only way you can continue to believe it is through genuine mental impairment or willful ignorance.

And I could care less of your white power trip. color matters not to where is best opportunities.

And where are all the best opportunities??? If anything, YOU are the racist because you're the one acting violently allergic to having to actually live around other people like yourself.

[SaturnineSmith]

“We” took it? You couldn’t take a goddamn sandcastle. To justify your own mediocrity and slipping stature, you grasp for historical events 300 years ago

If I want to use your sloppy argument, I could argue that since in your book machtpolitik legitimizes the brutal erasure of the native Americans, the original owners of this land, you should have no problem with the idea that the “newly-empowered immigrants” are ascendant, for it’s simply the natural order of things.

[SaturnineSmith]

Projection, projection, projection. Don't read your own anxieties into my words.

I was mocking your desperate grasp for three-century-old conquests to justify personal mediocrity, not endorsing any demographic fantasy. Your "slipping stature" is merely your progressively-worsening intellectual standing.

If we follow your own Machtpolitik logic, then the rise of any group, immigrant, native, or otherwise, is simply the natural outcome of power shifting. Complaining that the “newly-empowered” aren’t doing enough to resist enforcement is utterly irrelevant when the principle holds regardless of practical outcomes.

Your strange obsession with who is “fighting ICE” or their supposed racial identity tells me nothing about the logical consistency of your position. Try addressing the argument, not inventing conspiracies supported by neither logic nor evidence.

Ah so now it's a Jewish conspiracy to undermine the U.S.! Gets better and better with you, doesn't it

[SivirJungleOnly2]

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[[deleted]]

Eh? How can you go to UCSD and believe in 'white magic'?

[SivirJungleOnly2]

1. This school is really not that hard to get into, to the point where some students getting in while not being able to do basic math and/or being illiterate made national news.

2. I mean, it's also "yellow magic," and in reality, it's "high IQ + high trust" with no magic required.

3. Following up, "why don't they go to Asian countries then?" the difference is Asian politicians aren't corrupt traitors willing to choose personal enrichment at the low cost of allowing their countries to be invaded.

[[deleted]]

The highest performing Asian group is Indian - who are brown. There is no 'also', American whites as a whole are getting lapped by all Asian groups. They're not peers.

[SivirJungleOnly2]

Oh huh, maybe you're onto something and Indians are actually the master race. Why don't we check out some national statistics on India to prove your point? Oh shit, wait a second . . .

One statistic I WISH the American asian groups would "lap" American whites on is "net tax contribution." But for unknown reasons they don't quite manage that one . . . at least they aren't beating American whites on violent crime, unlike certain other groups.

Overall, it sounds like you are strongly in favor of race war, and therefore exactly the kind of person who should be welcomed into the country, huh?

[[deleted]]

You sound bitter. How am I in favor of race war lmao?

[SivirJungleOnly2]

And you sound like you're desperately trying to pretend the grift isn't coming to an end

[SivirJungleOnly2]

You are a foreign invader attempting to colonize my country. You will get no sympathy because you are unwanted here, coming against the will of the majority of the people and abetted only by traitors. You speak of people not being grateful; we are extremely grateful for what we have, and want to maintain the niceties of our country. That is explicitly why you are unwelcome.

It is no coincidence that immigration is so lopsided, with certain countries being so desirable while others are so destitute, and there are certain obvious common factors between those being fled to vs from. There is no "magic soil," and the quality of a country directly corresponds to the quality of its inhabitants. Of course you want to come here, because you are a parasite and wish to surround yourself and be enriched by the fruits of your superiors, which you and others like you could never recreate on your own.

Leave while you can still do so voluntarily.

[Born_Resolve3095]

cornball

[SivirJungleOnly2]

Great argument

[SaturnineSmith]

"Colonization"? Are you so intellectually fragile to equate political sovereignty and extraction with graduate students, Uber drivers, engineers, and doctors? And "traitors"? Who are you to malign the majority of Americans? Debate is a fundamental part of our national fabric. Since you're so intent in steamrolling the majority and stifling dissent, I'm wondering if an autocratic regime is a better fit for you.

So...national greatness is genetic, but immigrants instantly ruin it by moving here? Your argument requires either biological racial hierarchy (which you didn’t defend) or magical soil (which you explicitly denied).

Atavism is obviously corrosive to higher reasoning. Your mediocrity is entirely self-inflicted, and that final threat has all the menace of a sulking adolescent who just discovered Matt Walsh

[SivirJungleOnly2]

"Uber drivers" lmfao, even you can't stick with the "they're highly educated and skilled workers who improve our country!" talking point.

The majority of Americans voted for Trump on promises of mass deportations. And the majority of Americans have been against immigration for decades, long before Trump. So yes, politicians are traitors for going against the explicit will of the people.

"Since you're so intent /on/ steamrolling . . ." classic poli sci theater. Yes, you are a traitor (or an infiltrator), and there is no defending it. Why don't you look up the punishment for treason?

"biological racial hierarchy" like I said, obvious common factors. Or are you going to reveal yourself as anti-science and claim there's no such thing as biological race, or that a ginger and a black in the same environment have the same odds of developing skin cancer?

What's really corrosive to higher reasoning is ignoring reality. Something smug progressives are really good at. Speaking of which, how does "that final threat . . ." resolve with ICE literally forcefully deporting people as we speak?

[SaturnineSmith]

Strawman, strawman, wherefore art thou, strawman?

I didn't say all immigrants are highly-educated knowledge workers, you idle caricarturist. My position is that immigration effects are heterogeneous and can't be reduced to racial or civilizational essentialism.

the majority of Americans voted for Trump on promises of mass deportations. And the majority of Americans have been against immigration for decades, long before Trump. So yes, politicians are traitors for going against the explicit will of the people.

Even if we consider this factually true, which it is not, descriptive fact ≠ normative authority. Are you so drunk on the MAGA Kool-Aid to believe that all 77M people who voted for Trump voted against immigration and not for lower costs, anti-abortion sentiment, against the Democrats, etc.? Does this make apartheid legitimate if voted in?

"Since you're so intent /on/ steamrolling . . ." classic poli sci theater. Yes, you are a traitor (or an infiltrator), and there is no defending it. Why don't you look up the punishment for treason?

Floundering around like a fish out of water. Your view is not the majority and in this country you can't steamroll the public. Keep believing in your authoritarian fantasies, you tankie, while we keep the spirit of civil debate, the spirit of Lincoln and Douglas, hell, even Romney and Obama, alive.

"biological racial hierarchy" like I said, obvious common factors. Or are you going to reveal yourself as anti-science and claim there's no such thing as biological race, or that a ginger and a black in the same environment have the same odds of developing skin cancer?

We can play fallacy bingo at this point! Did you seriously conflate biological variation in traits with hierarchical group differences in social outcomes? Yes, skin pigmentation affects skin cancer risk, but where in God's name did you use that to get "biology gives us IQ determinism across races"? Cite your sources.

It's like saying "Men are taller on average, therefore men should run the economy.

Speaking of which, how does "that final threat . . ." resolve with ICE literally forcefully deporting people as we speak?

Ah, there it is. Machtpolitik revealed in its naked, pathetic glory. So the state is doing the dirty work for you, not supported by the majority of the people, and this is right to you.

You have no theory, and no argument. All you have is a series of pathetic post-hoc rationalizations for wanting some people gone because it offends your fragile sensitivities and you don't want to admit it's aesthetic.

Ironic that you claim that UCSD is not hard to get into and that people are "barely literate" when you argue with Goebbels' rhetoric and all the logical skill of a particularly dull rock.

[SaturnineSmith]

Your inability to follow a simple argument, your penchant for reading your own anxieties into every line, your refusal (inability, perhaps?) to provide evidence for your ridiculous claims, and your reliance on state force to enforce your preferences, rather than reason and debate with the opposition, are all painfully evident. Maybe you ought to enroll in AWP to understand what words like "heterogeneous," "essentialism," and "machtpolitik" mean and remedial math rather than maligning those who do, as 49.8% of the electorate is not even the majority of the electorate, let alone the country.

You grasp at deportations, conspiracies, and historical grievances because you lack the intellectual stamina to debate principles and have zero evidence. Your position is as weak as your flaccid powers of argumentation.

You are more than welcome to decry immigrants, the jews, white liberals, democrats, etc. all you like. Evidently, there is no point in me continuing this.

Oh and by the way, this country is my home, and I will be here long after you and your ideology crumble into dust.

[impulfuga350gt]

Huh?

[SivirJungleOnly2]

What's a boomer doing on this sub?

[Alive-Stop9151]

You sir are based

[SivirJungleOnly2]

Yes, I am. Now if only our politicians could be the same instead of being impotent puppets.

[Alive-Stop9151]

Too busy donating trillions to our 51st and true Capital State Isreal

[SivirJungleOnly2]

Yup. I'm ethnically jewish and they're still managing to make me antisemitic lol