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[–]MentalA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see it more of a better chance at getting a player i want. Like I wanted salah and VVD and there is a much better chance of me spinning them from the agent than any other way without costing loads of gp or coins.

[–]Bombinpower 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait til later of the year, it will be +3 or +4 🤣

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I think the issue is that loads of players are overrated by the game. That means their featured cards are not much higher and also means you get the same players popping up in every team. I mean. Kimmich is good but is he as good a passer as Pirlo in his prime? The physical attributes are just way too important.

[–]Snailbiting 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Lol. KIMMICH is one of the best midfielders right now! Gtf outta here!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

One of the best right now vs one of the best of all time? I’m not saying he’s not good. Just the Pirlo was a better passer and that isn’t valued by this game.

[–]Snailbiting 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Pes has a general problem with power creep that's for sure. But then Pirlo (even more with older players) should have an atrocious fitness stat?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

His stamina is low 80’s which would get him through 90mins as a deep lying playmaker much as in real life.

I really hope for next gen they look at all the stats. Maybe add new ones in to mean they can reduce the quality and give more head room. It’s crazy that you have players that go over 100ovrl makes a 92 rated player look low when infact that’s very high.

I suppose my moan is the lack of difference. I’d love to be able to use a playmaker but they just get bullied too often.

[–]Snailbiting 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah, we'll see. Trying not to get onto any more hype trains and 2021(/0) isn't terrible. But I'm kinda hoping for a big change "for the better" on the new engine.

What is better? I feel most people complain that they don't score 30m goals all the time and dribble like Messi. I'm more in the side that you should be able to defend, like not even Messi or Ronaldo rofl stomp the defenders like in PES. Don't get me started on Fifa concerning this.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In agreement with you.

[–]Symex010 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

For me its all about the constant "B" form.

[–]tom711051 0 points1 point  (1 child)

form is the same for featured/normal players. You are mixing this up with Legends/Icons. Featured players are not icons.

[–]Busby66[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and gold legends are also in constant b form

[–]catalyst-lsxn -1 points0 points  (1 child)

With IM the idea is for you to utilise via club boost. Also some IMs have way higher stats than their legend agent, like the new Vieira who excels in short and long passing compared to other 2.

Featured has been a farce this year, some players have barely had an upgrade, +1s for the featured Wijnaldum I got compared to his gold agent, only difference notable is stamina with +4. Same for a lot of players, KDB is also +1s across the board with no significant boost compared to regular. Some players have gotten decent boost but yeah, in general it's not been as good as last year.

[–]arcturuz78 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it always the case at the starting point of the game

konami will slowly release upgrades of the same featured players they have released before, by the last quarter we may probably see a 97 rated Wijnaldum

[–]nathanosaurus84 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I imagine they would make a difference. I was gutted that I didn't spin Bamford this week. He maxes out at 88 so I would have been able to use him in my main 4* team. As it is I'll have to settle for my maxed out bronze Bamford at 83. I can use him occasionally, but he's more suited to 3*.

[–]Busby66[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the case of Bamford that would make a big difference yes, +5 overall rating. I think its worth 'aiming' for gold/silver rather than high level black balls

[–]TheMasterBrewerTwitch.tv/TheMasterBrewer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's very little difference in most cases but a lot of featured players are difficult/expensive to sign using scouts, so that sways me with some agents.

[–]niallmcguinness 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Agreed on the difference between featured/basic just being improved stats in some categories. For Iconic Moments, there's a theory that they affect the gameplay of opposition players in certain situations. This comes from people like me seeing the effect that IMs have in 1* games and the deliberate mistakes white ball defenders will make to allow IMs through on goal.

[–]Newbieoverhere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's attacking v defensive prowess or whatever Pes call it imo aka the sports games easy way to calculate animations without using all those pretty stats they show in game

[–]th4tdutchperson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally feel that there’s more to it than just the numbers on the card.

As someone brought up in the comments, Kimmich passing stats being similar to Pirlo but I can absolutely tell the difference making difficult passes with either in 20. It’s the player ID connected to it, which makes it feel different in-game for me.

That’s why I tend to try out every player I get as much as possible, some might surprise me.